SPOILER ALERT: Today's episode is all about La Casa de Papel (Money Heist). Yes, that means all of it. So be sure to finish watching before listening to us discuss it! Or... listen away if you don't care about spoilers! Today on I'm Obsessed With This, host Bobby Finger is joined by Lindsey Weber (@lindseyweber), writer, editor and Who? Weekly co-host, and Jean Bentley (@hijean), entertainment reporter who covers television for The Hollywood Reporter, Rotten Tomatoes, and more, to discuss the brand new season of La Casa de Papel, also known as Money Heist. Jean and Lindsey explain how they became so obsessed with the series, discuss why they love it as much as, uhh, pretty much everyone on the planet, and test their heist knowledge with a game that has as many twists and turns as Money Heist itself.* *(OK, maybe that's not true. Few things are as exciting as this incredible show.) S3 of La Casa de Papel (Money Heist) is now streaming!
SPOILER ALERT: Today's episode is all about La Casa de Papel (Money Heist). Yes, that means all of it. So be sure to finish watching before listening to us discuss it! Or... listen away if you don't care about spoilers!
Today on I'm Obsessed With This, host Bobby Finger is joined by Lindsey Weber (@lindseyweber), writer, editor and Who? Weekly co-host, and Jean Bentley (@hijean), entertainment reporter who covers television for The Hollywood Reporter, Rotten Tomatoes, and more, to discuss the brand new season of La Casa de Papel, also known as Money Heist. Jean and Lindsey explain how they became so obsessed with the series, discuss why they love it as much as, uhh, pretty much everyone on the planet, and test their heist knowledge with a game that has as many twists and turns as Money Heist itself.*
*(OK, maybe that's not true. Few things are as exciting as this incredible show.)
S3 of La Casa de Papel (Money Heist) is now streaming!
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Bobby: Welcome to I'm Obsessed With This, the Netflix podcast about the shows and films that everyone seems to be talking about and why. As usual, we will be having a spoiler full discussion of all titles today, all titles equals Money Heist, La Casa de Papel, as well as a few old Heist movies—I won't spoil it, but we're going to spoil them with you. So, if you don't want to be spoiled about Heist movies generally or in particular, La Casa de Papel, finish the season and then come back to this.
Lindsey: And then watch a bunch of Heist movies.
Bobby: And then watch a bunch of Heist movies. I am your host, Bobby Finger. And today I'm joined in the studio by Lindsey Weber, writer/editor, and cohost of my other podcast, Who? weekly.
Lindsey: Hi.
Bobby: And also, we're patched in with Jean Bentley, entertainment reporter who covers television for the Holiday Reporter, Rotten Tomatoes, and more. Hello from New York, Jean.
Jean: Hello from LA.
Bobby: You just covered the Emmy nominations. Exciting.
Jean: I did. I did. They were exciting. They're nice.
Lindsey: They were exciting.
Bobby: And they were at 2 a.m.
Jean: I've been up for seven hours.
Lindsey: There were some good ones. I think, though, HBO came out on top this year.
Bobby: HBO came out on top, not Netflix.
Lindsey: Yeah.
Bobby: The producer of this particular project.
Lindsey: That's what I was implying.
Bobby: I see some Ozark in there; I see some Russian Doll.
Lindsey: There's some Russian Doll.
Bobby: Russian Doll.
Lindsey: Yes.
Bobby: I see a little When They See Us.
Jean: Beyoncé's Homecoming got like a kajillion in the variety section.
Bobby: Oh, it did? It did?
Jean: Hm-hmm [affirmative].
Bobby: That's great. Pose, which you can watch now on Netflix. What fun. Lindsey's drinking coffee; I'm drinking coffee. Jean, are you drinking anything or are you just like going dry right now?
Jean: Listen, I have some water. You know, I'm hydrating.
Lindsey: It's early there.
Bobby: Oh, yeah, it is. Well, you think, maybe coffee...
Lindsey: Earlier.
Bobby: Earlier. Well, the time difference really does just completely mess me up. You two know each other.
Jean: Hm-hmm [affirmative].
Lindsey: Yeah.
Bobby: You met internationally.
Lindsey: Yeah. We met on a press trip, which is some true insider media bullshit.
Jean: Yup.
Bobby: And you haven't seen each other since?
Lindsey: Since we were in the country of Botswana.
Jean: Hm-hmm [affirmative].
Bobby: That's great.
Lindsey: It was a great, great press trip.
Bobby: Working on—what was the—it was National Geographic?
Lindsey: National Geographic, two different shows; one was a documentary and one was like a wildlife documentary.
Bobby: That's fun.
Lindsey: Both good.
Bobby: And to pivot back to Netflix, because this is not a National Geographic podcast, did you watch Our Planet?
Lindsey: I didn't bring it up, but of course I did.
Jean: Sure did. Of course.
Lindsey: Of course I did. And it felt even more real to me, because I'd just seen all that stuff in real life. It was quite moving.
Bobby: Did it feel more real watching it on our friend's HDR television than it did in person?
Lindsey: It felt—it did feel more real watching it on that huge TV. than in person—no. It was—I think, Jean, I don't know if you remember, but towards the end of our trip, I was genuinely scared when we went out. I don't know if you experienced me, like my excitement turning into fear.
Bobby: Because of the wildlife?
Lindsey: It got more real to me as we were—because every morning and night we would go on these little trips out to see animals. And at first I was like, "Animals, I've seen them. I know what these animals look like. These are easy animals." And then toward—at the end I was like, "I'm generally terrified they could kill us right now."
Jean: I mean, I do remember that you got an incredible video of like a warthog or something?
Lindsey: Yeah. Well, I got charged up by a warthog.
Jean: Just a casual Botswana adventure.
Bobby: You have a video that's very much like my new favorite Twitter account which is Perfect Cut Screams.
Lindsey: Oh, I haven't seen that one.
Bobby: Have you seen this Twitter account, Jean?
Jean: No. I have to check it out.
Bobby: It's just like videos where things, like sort of innocuous things are happening frequently with animals. And then the animal charges at the person. You hear like a scream, but then it cuts before anything. It's not always animals.
Lindsey: It was just like, you know, the more you see these animals, the more weird things that they do that you'd never seen before. So, you're like, "I'm genuinely like scared now that this—it's so real to me."
Jean: I'm really scared of hippos after that trip. I had no opinion on hippos before, but I realized they are the actual most terrifying...
Lindsey: Yeah, because every time you saw them they'd be like, "Oh, these are the murderers." Like, "This is how everyone does is these hippos."
Jean: More people die by hippo than like other animals. There's a statistic that real that you can look up, but like, hippos are dangerous.
Bobby: Hippos are like terrorists.
Lindsey: They're dangerous. And they honk. During the day, they like sound like cows, but then at night they laugh. So, they sound like they're laughing. They sound like, "Haw, haw, haw, haw," all night.
Bobby: Isn't the thing about coyotes that they sound like crying children, like babies? Where like in LA you hear coyotes and it's really creepy.
Lindsey: So do feral cats.
Jean: Yeah.
Bobby: Well, we're not here to talk about animals anymore. But before we get into La Casa de Papel, I want to talk about other things that you've been watching on Netflix—TV. series, films, whatever, that you've been really loving lately. You know, the more obscure, the better. The more underground—although, is anything actually obscure on Netflix? I think that's more of an existential question. Jean, what have you been watching that you've been loving?
Jean: Okay. So, I watch a lot of comedy on Netflix. I really like to put on a stand-up special while I'm getting ready for bed. So, the most recent one I watched is Katherine Ryan's special which came out, I think, a week ago.
Bobby: Oh, I love her.
Jean: Yeah. And I actually didn't know really who she was until I watched The Fix—another Netflix show—which is like Netflix's version of a British panel show. And so, I watched these episodes when it came out last year and I was like, "Who is this lady? She's very funny." Pretty famous in England, I think.
Bobby: She's Canadian, I think.
Jean: Yeah. Yeah. And then she lives in the UK with her daughter. And I thought her special was very funny. She had a really extended bit about Celine Dion and how Celine Dion is the best and everyone loves her. And, you know, that's true.
Bobby: It is every Canadian's number one topic of conversation, Celine Dion.
Jean: Yes, exactly.
Bobby: That's it.
Lindsey: That's all they have, right?
Jean: Like, yes.
Bobby: Americans only talk about, you know, Chris Pratt and Catherine Schwarzenegger.
Lindsey: Yes, that's all we talk about.
Bobby: That's all we talk about.
Lindsey: That's all we talk about.
Jean: All of the time.
Bobby: I was trying to think of what's the opposite of Donald Trump? What's the opposite of Donald Trump? Chris Pratt and Katherine Schwarzenegger.
Lindsey: We only talk about Donald Trump, that's true.
Bobby: What about you, Lindsey, what have you been watching?
Lindsey: Well, I was just like—I forget—but like, I'm looking at what I have been watching recently, in, "My continue watching for Lindsey."
Bobby: Oh, I love the "continue watching."
Lindsey: Because I tend to start and stop things, but you know what actually I did watch that I was like perfectly charmed by and felt like moved, but also like TV. is so urgent and it feels like you're in a rush to finish it and you're in a rush to start something else. I was watching Tales of the City and I was like, this is such like a pleasant, like romp of television. Like, I could watch two episodes and never watch it again; I could watch the whole thing; I could come back in a year and watch more. Like, I just felt so calmed by it.
Bobby: They just put the OGs on it, too. So, you can watch the, like original 1993 ones, too.
Lindsey: Really?
Jean: Oh, really?
Lindsey: And I started reading the books, too. I was like, oh, I really want to know, like, because our friend, Andrew Spina, was like, "Oh, you've got to read the books. They're like super fun."
Bobby: I've the read the first. They're good, yeah.
Lindsey: So, it was just kind of like, this is a show that doesn't feel like it is in step with what type of TV.'s out now in a very refreshing way.
Bobby: It's very sweet, I hear.
Lindsey: Very sweet.
Jean: Yes.
Lindsey: Just not urgent. Like I love that.
Bobby: I haven't watched it. I was—I noticed that the original—the 1993 one is up on Netflix. And it's really funny because, I don't know if you've looked at all of them. There's so many of them. They got the gang back together like five times. There's Tales of the City. There's More Tales of the City. There's like, "Guess what? They've got More Tales of the City." Like, "Here comes more Tales of the City. Tales of the City Reloaded." And then—so, there's so many of them. But I think just that first one is up now, like Baby Laura Linney, Baby Olympia Dukakis, Baby Who? It's all Baby Parker Poseys and…
Lindsey: I want to give you another one that's like not as like, you know, like something a little bit more...
Bobby: Jean, have you been watching Tales of the City?
Jean: I have watched a couple of episodes. I haven't gotten super far into it. I hear that Episode 8 is pretty...
Lindsey: Oh, I got to get there. I got to get there.
Bobby: You got to get there.
Jean: I know, that's what I've been looking forward to it.
Lindsey: The other thing that I was watching that was also quite pleasant on Netflix was the movie—oh, Becoming Jane. Have you seen that one?
Bobby: Oh, I love Becoming Jane.
Lindsey: Such a good movie.
Bobby: Want to know something embarrassing?
Jean: What?
Bobby: I worked for my college newspaper for like a year. It was fine. But I wrote—I did a lot of things, but I wrote...
Lindsey: Review of Becoming Jane.
Bobby: I wrote reviews for one summer because they needed someone to fill in for one summer.
Lindsey: Amazing. Good skill.
Bobby: And I reviewed maybe five movies, two of them that I remember, Becoming Jane, and I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry.
Lindsey: Oh, incredible.
Jean: Wow.
Lindsey: What a great summer.
Jean: Pinnacle of cinema.
Bobby: Yeah, I went and saw press screenings, like the Austin version of press screenings. So, it was just like a packed AMC—because the way they do it in most cities—because we don't have, you know, the luxury of a New York or LA screening room, right?
Lindsey: Yeah.
Bobby: They just have sneak previews where they let people in to see Becoming Jane, like two days before it comes out.
Lindsey: Yeah.
Bobby: And there's like one row of press people.
Lindsey: That's so fun, though. Like, I just—I think Becoming Jane is one of those movies that I've watched on every streaming service.
Bobby: Guess which one I liked of the two...
Lindsey: It's followed me around.
Bobby: ...Becoming Jane or I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry?
Lindsey: Whoa, Becoming Jane.
Bobby: Becoming Jane. I gave it a rave, Jean. I gave it a rave.
Lindsey: It's a great movie and I just want to say it's on Netflix.
Bobby: Her accent, good.
Lindsey: Yeah, she's incredible. No, she's incredible. It's a great movie.
Bobby: Let's move on. We are going to talk about what is the biggest non-English language television show on Netflix.
Lindsey: This is crazy to me.
Bobby: Huge, and no one in America knows about it.
Jean: Oh, my God.
Bobby: You're obsessed with it. How—it's called La Casa de Papel. In English it has the slightly less effective title, Money Heist.
Lindsey: Yeah, Jean, how did you start watching this?
Bobby: How did you discover it?
Jean: Okay. I used to write for this TV app where people can track what they're watching on television. And the company was started in Europe. So, they have a lot of people from Europe who use the app. And it was consistently, like, the top show that people were following, that people were watching. And I was like, okay, whatever. And then I finally was like, you know what? I'm going to check it out. And then I checked it out and it was incredible. And as you said, you can do nothing else but watch it because, unfortunately, despite the fact that I have watched so much Money Heist, I still do not speak Spanish.
Lindsey: Same. I thought it would change. I thought I would all of a sudden know. And it's like, honestly, it's not working.
Jean: It's not working. So, I watched it all, and then was like, "Guys, everyone watch this. Everyone watch this." And no one did. And I finally get to talk to you guys about it and I'm just thrilled.
Lindsey: It's—well, it's one of those shows that, you know, they do have English dubs. And you can also—so you can watch it English dubbed; you can also watch it in Spanish. I also watched it in Spanish with subtitles. And the problem with that, if you don't speak the language that you're watching—this also is an issue with Tara's house that I have—is that you're either fully engrossed in the show or you miss everything. So, you know, usually—sometimes you can watch TV. and you're kind of like half-half.
Bobby: Just Jean, you've watched it with subtitles?
Jean: Yes. I watched it with subtitles, and then I would like occasionally pick up my phone and start doing something and realize that I like didn't understand what was going on. And then I would rewind it two minutes, and then...
Bobby: I do a lot of rewinding in the show...
Lindsey: Same.
Bobby: ...because I look away and then I'm like, "Oh, damn it." And you watched it with subtitles as well, the first season?
Lindsey: I watched it with subtitles—no, the whole thing I watched with subtitles. I, you know, towards—sometimes my brain would like shut off and I'd want to go to the dub, but then I'd be like, "No, you're going to miss a lot of what's happening." The other thing that I find so funny about La Casa de Papel, which I'm not the first to say this is, the fact that it's called Money Heist is hilarious to me. Like, how is it translated to that? Like, it is the most straightforward like—it could be called like Money Heist, description money, there's a money heist. It's called Money Heist.
Bobby: I mean, what's a better English language, the actual literal translation is "The House of Paper," but I guess paper is sort of a colloquialism for money. So, it's sort of like, get that paper in the United States would refer to get that money. But it's like—it's really hard to think of something, because the Spanish title is so straightforward. So, like, what's a less sort of embarrassing straightforward title we could give it to English-speaking audiences? Like, Heist Show. Honestly, Heist Show. Here comes the heist?
Lindsey: Yeah, well, I guess what they thought, which is smart is, you know, the best way to get English speakers to come to this show is to say, "This is a heist show. If you like Ocean's Eleven, if you like Logan Lucky, if you like all these movies, this is the show for you. It is about a heist."
Bobby: And this leads me to the question I'm going to ask Number One Super Fan, the number one American, English-speaking, non-Spanish speaking super fan, Jean, what are parts one and two of Money Heist about? And then we will get into Season 3. Because, I think that this episode is speaking to people who haven't seen it as a whole. And then we can get to Season 3. But what are the first two parts about?
Jean: I've described it to people as like, Ocean's Eleven, but with like sexy Spanish people.
Lindsey: Yes. Yes.
Jean: Basically, it's so...
Bobby: Much sexier than...
Lindsey: Like Telenovela meets Ocean's Eleven.
Jean: Yeah. They're very hot.
Bobby: No one's fucking in Ocean's Eleven. It's really disappointing.
Lindsey: I know.
Jean: But these people, they sure are. So, it's like this mysterious guy who calls himself the professor gathers like a group of criminals together and they're all strangers and they all have different skills. And then they spend like months training for this heist, but it launches with the heist, which is they go into the royal mint of Spain and they're robbing the royal mint of Spain. And it's kind of like—goes back and forth in time, back to like their training, and then the present day, and the heist.
Bobby: There's a lot of time skipping in this show.
Jean: Lots. Lots of it.
Lindsey: Yeah, and there's stuff going on in the inside of the bank and there's stuff going on in the outside of the bank, because the professor is kind of their—you know, the guy on the outside. And you have a lot of like—they're doing stuff and then you kind of figure out what they're doing and why they're doing it, which is fun. Always in a heist you got to like leave a little mystery, can't explain it before they do it.
Bobby: I mean, the characters are all very good. They're like simple little archetypes. They're fun. They're exactly what you need from The Heist.
Lindsey: Exactly.
Bobby: You have the sexy person; you have the gay person; you have the other gay person; you have like all these things. But the thing that I appreciate about the show, which is kind of obvious, is that they're sort of Robinhoods in a way, like they understand that they have to be beloved by the Spanish people in order for this to be successful. So, they become sort of folk heroes by the end of the series, which is great.
Lindsey: Oh, yeah. I did love that.
Bobby: Like they're not hardened criminals. Yes, there's a lot of violence in the show and like murder happens, but ultimately, these are people you can feel comfortable rooting for, you know?
Lindsey: Well, they—you know, they reveal their back stories. And everybody, of course has some sort of like a humanistic trait that makes you kind of attracted to them, whether it's a rough father-son relation relationship or a kid somewhere or, you know, they fall in love, or, you know, it's very weird. Like, there really is only one character who I feel like is truly like a bad person because of what he does to the Berlin.
Bobby: Oh, Berlin.
Lindsey: Because of what he does to the...
Jean: The hostage.
Lindsey: The hostage. Like he kind of manipulates a female hostage.
Jean: He's like a sociopath.
Lindsey: But I think that's kind of what you're supposed to—they want you—there has to be one like truly bad guy. But for the most part, what's nice about robbing is that in a way it's kind of like Robinhood where you can always twist who are robbing into good people because, you know, "Fuck the system, "Down with capitalism."
Jean: Yes.
Lindsey: "We love our robbers."
Bobby: "They're giving us some of the money, too."
Jean: It's a heist movie, but it's also like anti-capitalism, but also like, this is what we have to deal with. So, you've got to work within the capitalist system. And so, we're going to you know, damn the man and rob the man.
Lindsey: And that's part of their plan, which I love. Because he's like, you know, "We can get a lot done here by winning the people." You know, "We can really mess with the police if the people are anti-police," which is like a big sentiment, you know. And I think there's a lot of nuance here that we are, as Americans are watching, are missing, too, like I very much am aware that as I watch it, there's a lot of things here that like Spanish people, people who live in Spain, know what's going on that we maybe don't have a full idea of, because they're really reaching. There's a little bit of like history that I feel like I'm missing here.
Bobby: I think that this is one of those shows that's particularly of the moment, because so much of it is about like the socio-economic reality of present-day Europe, and like why all these people are doing this plot to begin with, and also why the public is so supportive of them as they do it.
Lindsey: It's got a V for Vendetta vibe, too, which I feel like is very—is something that I should know about Spain that I'm too—that I'm ignorant and don't know, you know, that I'm learning.
Jean: Yeah.
Lindsey: But it reminds me of V for Vendetta, in terms of like the masks and all that.
Jean: Yeah. They all wear like red jumpsuits and Salvador Dali masks. So, it's definitely frightening to look at.
Bobby: And they involve the hostages in a way that is done in Inside Man, which we'll get to later. But it's like, you know, like they have the hostages in the same outfits so that they can be decoys, which becomes a problem.
Lindsey: If you're a big heist fan, you'll see patterns, I feel like, for other—you know, they try and do new things, but there's a lot of things that repeat, in terms of like strategies that like a lot of these heist movies love—know that audiences love to see, you know. Stockholm syndrome stuff, you got a lot of.
Bobby: Oh, yeah. I love the—there's like a couple instances of Stockholm syndrome, but I'm like, "I get it."
Lindsey: I love Stockholm syndrome.
Bobby: I get it.
Jean: Yeah.
Lindsey: Love it.
Bobby: So...
Lindsey: Just kidding, I don't love it. That's...
Bobby: No. We hate—we cannot support Stockholm syndrome.
Jean: No, we don't, but also they carry on—you know, they've got a little tongue-in-cheek reference to it.
Lindsey: I know. I didn't even tell you how I started watching.
Bobby: Yeah, how did you find it? Yeah.
Lindsey: I just wanted to do full disclosure. A friend of ours, you know, works at Netflix and was like, "Lindsey, I'd love for you to watch this show and do something for me," but I think you guys would appreciate what it was. You know how Denver has that like iconic laugh?
Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].
Jean: Yes.
Lindsey: So, my assignment was to watch the entirety of the two seasons and every time he laughed, to write down the time stamp. So, I was—so literally, like...
Bobby: A super cut of his laugh?
Lindsey: I was watching looking for his laugh. That's why I watched it the first time. I was like, "Oh, this is really good." I—it's so funny that I'm watching it for this very specific thing—and looking for other kind of things would be catchy, but his laugh was a good one.
Bobby: I love Denver. Denver's a great, like, kind of antihero. He's a great hero.
Lindsey: Well, he starts out kind of dumb and he starts out kind of childish, and then he becomes a man.
Bobby: And by Season 3 he's like, "Oh, Denver."
Lindsey: He's a man. He's a daddy.
Bobby: And when Denver is like turning away Nairobi in the elevator and he's like being a good guy, you're like, "Denver, you've grown."
Lindsey: Yeah, it's cool.
Jean: Yes.
Bobby: I love Denver. So, who is your favorite character, Jean? Have they evolved since Parts 1 and 2?
Jean: You know what? That's a really good question. I really love Rio, sweet, curly-haired Rio. I would also have to say that several of the cast members of Money Heist are also on Elite, which is the sexy, Spanish murder Gossip Girl show.
Bobby: Gossip Girly.
Jean: Which is also incredible. Everyone should watch it. Again, very upsetting to me that I have not absorbed even a little bit of Spanish.
Lindsey: I know, Jean. What are—you're putting a lot of time here.
Jean: It's rude.
Lindsey: Is Elite and La Casa de Papel are like the two biggest Spanish-speaking shows that Netflix has.
Bobby: I can't confirm Elite, but Money Heist is number one by a considerable margin.
Lindsey: But Elite is huge.
Bobby: I assume that Elite is also huge; I just don't have those numbers. You know, they keep those numbers in the Spanish mint.
Lindsey: I know, but if they're reusing the same kind of heart-throbby Spanish actors, like it was—it was probably as big of a splash as La Casa de Papel.
Jean: Yeah. So, he's on that show as well.
Bobby: Rio is?
Jean: Rio is, and Denver is. And then, the one hostage from Seasons—mainly Season 1, she's in Season 2 a little bit—but she's the British ambassador's daughter.
Bobby: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jean: She's also in Elite.
Lindsey: I loved her, by the way. She did not get enough time in the first one.
Jean: I agree.
Lindsey: Like, she didn't get enough—she, to me, was very important, Alison Parker, but did not get enough, kind of like, follow through with her plot, what my opinion.
Jean: I agree.
Bobby: That's Maria Pedraza.
Lindsey: I thought she was really good.
Bobby: She's only 23.
Jean: Yeah. They're all so young. And the guy who plays Rio is pretty young, too. But I just like—I found that character very endearing. And you can kind of see him become enamored with just like what he's doing, and also just being respected by all of these people who I think maybe would have like intimidated him in the past. And then he kind of also falls into this romance with the—I guess she's the main character, Tokyo. I mean, she's the one who—she narrates it. So, he has this romance with her, and I just found them very sweet and also he play a key role in Season 3, but he's not in it as much, which is my main complaint of September 3, to be honest with you.
Lindsey: And he's the one in the first two seasons—again, spoilers—that kind of like, you know one of them has to turn to the dark side a little bit to like help the cops or get a little scared, get freaked out, and that's him. And it's interesting that that becomes him. Then he kind of turns back. And then he kind of becomes the person why Season 3 happens.
Bobby: Right. He is the reason Season 3 occurs.
Lindsey: Because they all love him so much.
Bobby: But going back to that, I wanted to say, just for listeners who haven't watched the show and maybe need a little guidance, specifically English-speaking listeners, I watched Parts 1 and 2. I mean, you can think of Parts 1 and 2 as one season that's split in two, because it's one heist. And I think internationally whenever before it was on Netflix, it was just one season. They split it up in two. They kind of reedited it.
Jean: Yeah, they reedited it.
Bobby: So, Parts 1 and 2 I watched dubbed. And I was like, "This is fine. I like the intricacies of watching a heist movie. I love heist movies. I love watching them unveil. Like, I don't care how long it is, as long as that like final act is really satisfying." You know like, when everything's like, "And here's how we did it," and you play like cool music and you see all the little twists and turns.
Lindsey: That kind of happens like every episode.
Bobby: It happens every episode. And I think that's why I love the show so much. But Season 3 I watched with subtitles. And I—because it was the only thing available at the time. And I liked it so much more. And I think it's going to be worth—and we have said multiple times that if you take your eyes off the screen and you do not speak Spanish, you will miss things and you will have to rewind. It's worth it. It's worth it, because you lose some of the tone and you lose some of the nuances of the performances.
Lindsey: You lose dialog because a log of the translation is not quite there and you kind of miss a lot of the kind of like nuance of their performance, which is like—and you miss, you know, like the laugher dubbed is not as fun as the original laughter.
Bobby: It's not as funny.
Lindsey: Like it just—that's the truth.
Jean: It is a very iconic laugh. It's like a little Seth Rogan-y.
Lindsey: Yeah. You have to play it here. There's a video.
Bobby: I'll pop it in.
Lindsey: There's a recap of it.
[Video playing laugh]
Bobby: Jean, what would your city name be if you were a heister?
Jean: Oh, my gosh, that's such a good question.
Bobby: Every character in Money Heist goes by one name, and that one name is the name of a city. It's like the lead characters, Tokyo, there's a Rio, there's a Nairobi who I love.
Lindsey: Helsinki.
Bobby: Helsinki, I love Helsinki.
Lindsey: Oslo.
Jean: Oh, Helsinki. Helsinki's my favorite character in Season 3, I think.
Lindsey: Helsinki's a breakout.
Bobby: Cuddly, little teddy bear.
Lindsey: He's a breakout third season. Well, first and second season, it's almost like there are too many characters and a lot of them get lost, especially like the muscle. Then third season they're allowed to kind of like dig into their past, like you get a lot of the back story for people you didn't really know that well, like Nairobi gets a story; Helsinki gets a story. They introduce like a new true psycho, which I loved, because like Berlin, you know, RIP, and then you know, they bring on that other guy—what's that other guy's name?
Jean: Paloma?
Bobby: Paloma. Yes, Paloma.
Lindsey: Sure.
Bobby: He's the professor's brother's ex.
Lindsey: Right.
Bobby: Yes. And he loves Boom Boom Ciao.
Jean: Yeah, Boom Boom Ciao.
Lindsey: But he's a nice addition because they're all like family, they're all close, and he becomes the adversary kind of internally for them, because they need to—you need to have somebody who's kind of like almost going to fly off the handle, who is not trustworthy, you know, for them. And that's why I think Season 3, although I did tell this to Bobby, Jean, I was like—I texted him. I was like, "I do not know why they're doing another heist." Like, "It does not make sense to me why they're heisting again."
Bobby: It's hilarious.
Lindsey: They're just like, "We must heist."
Jean: It's so silly. It's the title, Lindsey. They can't get away from it.
Bobby: Jean, as a Season 1 and 2 obsessive...
Jean: Yes.
Bobby: ...when you heard there was going to be a Season 3, what went through your mind? Because at the end of Seasons 1 and 2, spoiler—they get away with it.
Jean: Yeah.
Bobby: And they go off to an island and they're happy. And they're rich as hell.
Jean: Yeah.
Bobby: And everything seems great. When you hear that Season 3 is happening, what are you thinking, besides, "I'm so excited"?
Jean: You know what? I was very excited. But I really was like, I wonder if they're going to go, like, rob somewhere else in like a different country or something.
Lindsey: Take the show on the road.
Jean: Yeah. Exactly. But, spoiler alert, they go back to Spain.
Bobby: They go back.
Jean: Which is not bad. I mean, like, hello, it's beautiful.
Lindsey: It's just so funny where it's like, you know, hey, this is what I want for Big Little Lies, too, I want them to do what they are good at. If this show is about heisting, I want another heist. I just love that it's like the reason to heist just—it didn't make sense to me. But do what you know best, which is like get back in there, you know?
Jean: Yes.
Bobby: So, in Season 3, Rio fucks up. Rio gets satellite phones from a bad source. And, guess what? Everyone finds them.
Lindsey: The reason is wild. It's like these two are living on an island together. They're so in love.
Bobby: They're fucking all the time. She's sort of like hung over.
Jean: They've just had two years of just like vacation.
Bobby: Yes.
Lindsey: You would get sick of that.
Bobby: I would get sick in two seconds. And so, she's like, "I need to go party." Like, "Can you please let me go party, because like I just want to go party?" And he's like, "Oh, whatever." Like, "I love you. Go party. Take my satellite phone." And then the moment they use they use their satellite phone, everyone in Spain is like, "We found you."
Lindsey: Because all of Span is like waiting for them.
Bobby: "We found you." And then they kidnap Rio and they hold him hostage. And then, everyone else comes together. And they're like, "You know what? We made a pact."
Lindsey: We got to heist.
Bobby: "We've got to take care of the gang. The gang is number one. Let's get the gang back together. If we're going to get them back, I'm sorry, but the only way to get them back is to do another heist." And so, they're like—and everyone's like—but I think one of the things that's funny about it, it's sort of like a drug. It's an addiction to them at this point. So, they've all been living these lives of leisure for two years, but they miss the thrill of heisting.
Lindsey: That's true. Like, I guess that's the underlying cause of all this. Because you're thinking like these—they're all isolated. They really live these like kind of—they're rich, but they live these isolated lives.
Bobby: They're nervous.
Lindsey: Yeah, they're nervous, getting caught. So as soon as the opportunity comes back, they selfishly are like, "We must heist."
Jean: And also, the true heist was the friends they made along the way.
Lindsey: Yes. The real heist was the friends they made along the way.
Bobby: Oh, they made so many friends. I've got to say, though, I'm such a dumb ass because watching Part 3 I was like—by the time there was like the Episode 7, I was like, "Oooh, wow, they're really cutting it close." Like, "I hope they finish this heist." And then, Episode 8 was happening, and I was like, "When are they going to finish this heist?" And I was like looking at my watch. There was only ten minutes left and I was like, "Oh, God damn it, this is split in two. I've got to wait 'til Prat 4."
Lindsey: Yeah, two parts.
Bobby: Oh, my God. But I do love—I do love the dynamic between the professor and Lisbon.
Lindsey: Lisbon.
Bobby: She's great. Love her.
Lindsey: Well, he's a real interesting character, right, because he is really hard to read. I think in Spanish, and especially in English, if you watch the dubbed, you're like, "What is this character?" And their relationship is sweet, but it's also like—it almost feels fleeting, dangerous. Like anyone could flip.
Bobby: That's what's great about it.
Lindsey: Yeah. Like it's not—I don't trust them as a couple.
Bobby: And they both recognize that in each other, too. And I think one of the things that the show does well, which back to Big Little Lies, maybe in the first season Big Little Lies does that sort of—well, they have the Greek chorus element in the first season, but the way that they sort of switch back and forth between timelines is pretty seamless. In the second season it's not quite as seamless.
Lindsey: This one is very seamless.
Bobby: And this one is very seamless. And I loved in like—it was the seventh or eighth episode where Lisbon is remembering the professor getting up in the middle of the night and then like going to look at the waves. And she's like, "Wow, he doesn't really love me anymore." But then he's remembering it kind of differently. And he's like, "Wow, I love her so much." And I like that they have all of that.
Lindsey: Right, because he's literally impossible to read. And I think that's a big issue with their relationship. Like, forget the heist, like it's an interpersonal problem where like these two people—she's skilled in hostage negotiations, so like that's how she knows, and he is like this out—in a cloud, you know?
Jean: I think it's really interesting because you learn that the professor is the younger brother of the sociopath guy, Berlin. And so you can tell that throughout his entire life he was overshadowed by this older brother who was like really manipulative So he—the professor is really good at observing things, which is interesting when he gets into this relationship with a hostage negotiator and a cop who also observes a lot of things. So, I really like that part of the relationship. Now, the new hostage negotiator...
Lindsey: Oh, I love that they bring another woman...
Jean: ...in Season 3, oh my God, she has iconic bangs.
Lindsey: Yeah, iconic bangs.
Jean: She wears like—she has like three cross earrings in each ear and like 16 cross chains over her turtleneck.
Lindsey: They had to bring in somebody who was in direct contrast to Lisbon. Like...
Jean: Oh, my God.
Bobby: And she loves candy. Oh, my God, she loves candy.
Jean: She loves candy. She is also—seems to be a little bit of a sociopath.
Bobby: Lunatic.
Lindsey: A hundred percent.
Jean: But like she—there's some screws loose for sure.
Bobby: What was the line when, was it Nairobi was like, "Your kid is never going to love you, by the way," or something? I was like, oh, my God, that's like the one thing you could say to her, because the little nuance of that character being like—she's having the kid because everyone hates her and she thinks that if she has a kid, it'll be something that finally loves her.
Lindsey: But it's two mothers like having this confrontation, like two, like...
Jean: Well, I think Rio says that to her.
Bobby: Rio. Okay. It's Rio, right.
Jean: What is that relationship, the relationship between the new negotiator and Rio? What? What's going on there? I don't know. I certainly do not know.
Bobby: I don't know. How are they going to get out of this? How are they going to get out of this? I have clips to play, but how are they going to get out of this?
Lindsey: The first half ends super—I mean, what's weird is that for a very bloody—there's a lot of setups to be very—there's a lot of guns in this show. And they really don't lose people that often. Like, they're still mostly intact. I mean...
Bobby: And they're really good at...
Lindsey: Berlin had a disease anyways. He was going to go. So, he did.
Bobby: I just love that—it's one of the rare, kind of action shows or just action titles generally film or TV. show where when there's an act of violence, everyone around them is really good at surgery. Every time someone gets shot you're like, "Oh, no. There's a head injury." Like, "He's out for sure." And they're like, "No. We're going to stabilize him. We're going to give him all this stuff and he's going to be fine." And they're always fixing people. I love it.
Lindsey: I mean, they learned how to do it. The professor taught them how to do surgery. Remember?
Bobby: They're so smart.
Jean: You mean like ocular surgery? Like...
Lindsey: Yeah. Oh, yeah, that was crazy.
Bobby: I was like, "He's going to be blind." No, he's not.
Jean: Apparently not. Really good schools in Spain.
Bobby: Oh, yeah.
Lindsey: Really good schools in Spain.
Bobby: Absolutely.
Lindsey: Everyone is a genius.
Bobby: You did not answer the question, Lindsey. What is your city name? Lindsey, are you just "Boston"? "Look at Boston over here."
Lindsey: But I don't think—none of them got named for cities they were form.
Bobby: Right. Okay. So, what would your ideal city name be?
Lindsey: I do like that they all chose cities that were exotic to them. Like even like, you know, how—what's their kid's name?
Bobby: Cincinnati.
Lindsey: Cincinnati. That cracked me up.
Bobby: I love Cincinnati.
Lindsey: Like, that's so funny to me.
Jean: It's so funny. I think mine would be like Sidney. I was trying to think of like what they didn't have. They have no, like, Australian ones. So, I'll go with Sidney.
Lindsey: I think I would be like Fresno. Like it would be funny. Like Fresno, a city name that's like not a real name, and it's like random. What I love about their city names is that for the ones that are American cities, people who are watching the show mainly who live in Europe like think that these cities are like cool cities. "Like Cincinnati," like, "don't go there."
Jean: Cincinnati is so funny.
Bobby: There's something like just to get back to like the exotic comment, it's like Americans love to make everything seem more exotic and more intense than it actually is. I feel like an American version of the show, the city names would have been really on the nose.
Lindsey: Yes.
Bobby: But because it's this like European show, they're like, "Oh, you're Denver," and it means absolutely nothing. "Oh, you're Nairobi," and it means absolutely nothing. "She's Tokyo," it means nothing.
Lindsey: It does mean nothing to them.
Bobby: So, I feel like a random city that I think would just be fun would be like Minneapolis, you know? Like, literally, Minneapolis.
Lindsey: But also, what a genius—I don't know if they did this on purpose, but again, this show deserves a bigger international audience, but what a genius way for me personally as a non-Spanish speaker to fully keep the characters' names in my brain, which is the hardest part of watching something that is not American, especially Terrace House, I forget all their names and it's really hard to think about the show, to make the show—to make the characters have these city names. Like, it really helps me keep track of all of them. Genius.
Bobby: Okay. So...
Lindsey: Here's your quiz.
Bobby: We're going to play a quick little quiz. We're going to go back and forth. It's about heists. I just love heists.
Jean: I do love heists.
Bobby: Do you love heists in general?
Jean: I love heists. I love heist movies. I wish there were more heist shows, to be honest.
Lindsey: I agree.
Jean: And we watched Good Girls on NBC.
Bobby: Oh, I love Good Girls.
Jean: It's not a full heist show, but it's like a little heisty.
Bobby: You know, if they finish everything up in Part 4 and that's all cool, get a new gang together. Let's heist somewhere else.
Jean: Yes.
Bobby: There's heists going on all the time.
Lindsey: There's definitely also a show out there that's like a heist every—like a miniseries heist situation, just new heists.
Bobby: They should do it. But, until then, you will have to deal with the heist movies and shows that already exist. Most of them are movies. These are the subjects of the quiz that I just came up with. So, I'm going to ask each of you these questions alternatingly. And then, if you don't get it right, then I'm going to give the other person a chance to get it. And if—I don't know. There are no points here. It's just for fun.
Lindsey: Just for fun.
Bobby: But we'll see who wins.
Lindsey: Just for fun.
Bobby: Lindsey, I'll start with you because you're right in front of me.
Lindsey: Okay.
Bobby: How much do Ocean's Eleven—sorry. How much do the eleven in Ocean's Eleven steal...
Lindsey: Fuck.
Bobby: ...in Ocean's Eleven? Is it—it's all multiple choice, that's fine.
Lindsey: Okay.
Bobby: $60 million; $120 million; $160 million; or $215 million?
Lindsey: So, because I just was doing work about money heist, I know that they want to steal 2.4 billion, because they are printing the money inside.
Bobby: Inside, that's so cool.
Lindsey: That's another money heist thing is that they're actually making money.
Bobby: And in Season 3, they're melting down gold into little cutesy...
Jean: And we don't know what they're going to do with it
Lindsey: It's wild that they're melting down gold into balls
Bobby: I love that Nairobi's like, "Isn't this cool? Look at the gold. Isn't it cool?"
Lindsey: Yeah. Don't they have to die for underground, it's a whole thing.
Bobby: I love it.
Lindsey: So, in my mind—but in the first half of Money Heist they don't get 2.4 billion.
Bobby: No. They get a little less. They get like a billion.
Lindsey: A billion or something. But Ocean's Eleven, how much would a casino have?
Bobby: That's the question. How much is the basemen to the Bellagio...
Lindsey: Couldn’t it be like a hundred something million?
Bobby: It's 160 million.
Lindsey: Yeah. Is that B? Did I get it right?
Bobby: That was C.
Lindsey: Okay.
Bobby: Okay. Jean...
Lindsey: But I knew it was like a hundred something.
Jean: Yeah, it was around there.
Lindsey: You have to make it worth your time. There are like 11 people involved in it. Everyone's got to get a good share.
Bobby: Okay. Jean...
Jean: Hm-hmm [affirmative].
Bobby: How much did Chris Pine and Ben Foster need to steal from Texas banks in Hell or High Water? Much lower stakes, but, you know, to the average American...
Jean: Oh, my gosh. I know it's for their mortgage, right?
Bobby: Yes. It's their mother's mortgage. A: 14,000; B: 21,000; C: 43,000; or D, 52,000?
Jean: Wow, I truly do not remember. So, I'm going to go with B.
[Buzzer]
Bobby: Lindsey, that's wrong. It's not B.
Lindsey: I honestly don't remember. But what low stakes. Is it A?
[Buzzer]
Bobby: It's C, 43,000. That's all they need.
Lindsey: It's an incredible movie.
Bobby: A lot of people die in that movie for $43,000.
Lindsey: I know, that's what I was going to say. Like, there's more blood in that movie than...
Bobby: Than most of Money Heist.
Jean: Except for Season 3.
Bobby: Oh, yeah.
Lindsey: That's true.
Bobby: Okay. Lindsey, how much are the magicians attempting to steal in Now You See Me, your favorite movie of all time?
Lindsey: This is my favorite heist movie. I love this movie, Jean.
Bobby: Oh, magicians? Lindsey's like, "Magicians in Heist, even more in."
Lindsey: Wait. "Now You See Me 2" is incredible, Jean. Have you seen it?
Jean: I think I watched part of it on a plane once.
Lindsey: Jean, you have to watch it.
Jean: Yeah, I really need to.
Bobby: Everyone on the planet has watched part of "Now You See Me 2" online.
Lindsey: Okay. What's...
Bobby: A: 40 million; B: 140 million; C: 240 million; or D, 340 million?
Lindsey: There's—you know what's funny about this movie? It's like they're doing magic, I could not tell you where they're stealing from, like what they're—like, I don't even remember that part. I just know that they're...
Bobby: They're stealing money.
Lindsey: ...doing magic. Let's go with D.
[Buzzer]
Bobby: It's B, 140 million. I'm not going to do the alternating thing. So, next up is Jean. Jean, how much are the widows stealing in Widows?
Jean: Oh, my gosh. I don't know.
Bobby: A: 5 million; B: 25 million; C: 50 million; D: 85 million?
Jean: I'm going to go with D.
[Buzzer]
Bobby: It's A, 5 million. It was pretty low.
Jean: That was the lowest?
Lindsey: It's pretty low.
Jean: Well, I guess it wasn't the lowest of all (unintelligible 37:23), but it was pretty low.
Lindsey: Well, where are the widows stealing from again?
Bobby: The widows are stealing from Colin Farrell's vault in his house.
Lindsey: Okay. So, yeah, you got to—how much could really be in there?
Bobby: Because remember, Cynthia Erivo needs to carry it on her back.
Jean: She carries the (unintelligible 37:39) she's practicing (unintelligible).
Bobby: Yeah.
Lindsey: Meanwhile, Now You See Me, who knows where the fuck they were stealing from.
Bobby: No. No one remembers. No one cares. Widows is incredible. If you haven't seen Widows yet, watch it. I've seen it like three times. It's incredible.
Lindsey: You're choosing extremely good heist movies.
Bobby: We're done with all of these. We're done with the quick monetary values. Okay. So, Lindsey, where does the heist in Logan Lucky take place: a NASCAR race; a demolition derby event; a horse race; or a monster truck rally?
Lindsey: It's NASCAR, right?
Bobby: NASCAR, ding, ding, ding, you got it right.
Jean: I knew that one, too.
Lindsey: God, that's an incredible movie.
Jean: Guys, I just need it to be known that I...
Lindsey: You knew that.
Jean: ...can also get one.
Bobby: You knew it? Okay. Great. I believe you. I believe you, Jean.
Lindsey: Incredible movie. These are all incredible heist movies.
Jean: Yeah. These are really good movies.
Bobby: Jean, another incredible heist movie.
Jean: Okay.
Bobby: What does Thomas Crown steal in The Thomas Crown Affair? The category of things: expensive cars; religious relics; the crown jewels; or famous works of art?
Jean: It is famous works of art.
Bobby: All right. You got it. Ding, ding, ding.
Jean: Yes. Thank God.
Bobby: You know what else was an incredible movie? The Thomas Fucking Crown Affair.
Lindsey: I haven't seen it.
Jean: It sure is.
Bobby: It's so—speaking of sexy heist movies, Money Heist and Thomas Crown Affair, sexy.
Lindsey: I didn't know that was a heist movie.
Bobby: Oh, it's good.
Jean: It's sexy, yeah.
Lindsey: I got to watch it. Isn't Kristin Scott Thomas in that? Who's in that movie?
Bobby: Rene Russo.
Jean: Rene Russo.
Bobby: You're—you're—same energy. This one's dumb. I'm going to ask it though. Lindsey, what is the surprise reveal in Tower Heist...
Jean: I didn't see this movie.
Bobby: A: The car is made of gold...
Jean: No.
Bobby: ...B: The tile is made of diamonds...
Jean: Who knows?
Bobby: ...C: All the furniture is stuffed with cash; or D: There's a key on the dog that opens a gold-filled safe hidden on one of his private islands?
Lindsey: Let's say, the car—the tiles are made of gold.
[Buzzer]
Bobby: The car is made of gold. You mixed up one and two.
Lindsey: The car is made of gold.
Bobby: Here we go. Okay.
Lindsey: You didn't watch that movie.
Bobby: I did. I remember—because I was like, didn't—wasn't there something weird and like whacky about Tower Heist? Yeah, the car is made of gold. Jean.
Jean: Yeah.
Bobby: What do the robbers steal form the bank in Inside Man? I think Money Heist has so much in common with Inside Man. I think that's like the most—the closest parallel to Money Heist, just because of the intricacy and like, the interplay between the people and the hostages. Okay. Is it, A, cash; B, money bonds; C, diamonds; or D, gold?
Jean: You know, I have to—because it's been so long since I've seen this movie, that I don't—I'm—is it bonds?
[Buzzer]
Bobby: It's diamonds. Do you know who steals bonds?
Jean: Who?
Lindsey: Who?
Bobby: Forest Whitaker in Panic Room, that's what they're trying to get out of the panic room.
Lindsey: That's where it's in the panic room?
Bobby: Yeah, it's all in the panic room.
Lindsey: Inside Man is Denzel.
Bobby: Denzel and Clive and Spike Lee. It's incredible. Incredible.
Lindsey: And they're stealing diamonds from where?
Bobby: From a bank.
Lindsey: And who's the inside man?
Bobby: Clive Owen.
Lindsey: He's inside?
Bobby: Oh, he's inside. Lindsey, more Inside Man—more Inside Man questions.
Lindsey: Oh, fuck, I don't remember it.
Bobby: Who were the real villains in Inside Man?
Lindsey: Oh, no.
Bobby: A: The cops; B: The CIA...
Lindsey: It's always the cops.
Bobby: ...C: Nazis; or D: Russians?
Lindsey: Wait. Nazis?
Bobby: It's Nazis.
Lindsey: Is it Nazis?
Bobby: It's Nazis.
Lindsey: Why are they...
Bobby: Because Christopher Plummer is revealed to be a Nazi sympathizer.
Lindsey: He's always a Nazi. He's always a Nazi.
Bobby: One of the main things that they steal is proof that he funded his bank from Nazi money.
Lindsey: Yeah, that's always a thing.
Bobby: And Jodie Foster is like—Jodie Foster's incredible, by the way.
Lindsey: Yeah.
Bobby: Okay. Back to Jean.
Jean: Okay.
Bobby: What does Ansel Elgort suffer from in Baby Driver, a great heist movie?
Lindsey: Shit, I know the answer to this.
Bobby: Is it IBS; Turrets, tinnitus, or narcolepsy?
Jean: That would be tinnitus.
Bobby: All right. You got it right. Wow, two in a row you got right.
Lindsey: Baby Driver is so fucking good. Such a good movie.
Bobby: A few more, then we'll be done.
Lindsey: People were so mean about that movie. It was so much better than people said.
Bobby: That's right. Lindsey, during what war does Three Kings take place?
Lindsey: Fuck, I have no idea.
Bobby: The Korean War; the Vietnam War, the Revolutionary War; or the Persian Gulf War?
Lindsey: The last one.
Bobby: Jean, what vehicle is used to transport money internationally in Jackie Brown: a plane; a train; a boat; or a blimp?
Jean: On, my gosh. I don't know.
[Buzzer]
Bobby: She's a flight attendant. It's a plane.
Lindsey: Oh, yeah, she is.
Bobby: Three more; they're really short. They're all centered around the film, Entrapment.
Lindsey: Fuck.
Bobby: Lindsey...
Lindsey: Fuck.
Bobby: ...during what major event does Entrapment take place...
Lindsey: I don't remember.
Bobby: ...Día de los Muertos...
Lindsey: No.
Bobby: ...The millennium new year; the World Cup, or Carnival?
Lindsey: Carnival.
[Buzzer]
Jean: I know this one. It's the millennium new year.
Bobby: Jean...
Jean: I did recently watch this movie.
Lindsey: Yeah, Entrapment.
Bobby: Jean, confirm or deny, Entrapment is incredible?
Jean: It's so good, I watched it again on a plane very recently.
Lindsey: Entrapment is laser. She's under the laser.
Bobby: She's under the laser. Oh, my God. Okay. Lindsey...
Lindsey: My memory...
Bobby: Wait, no, Jean.
Lindsey: No, it's Jean's turn.
Bobby: In Entrapment, who is playing who: Is Sean playing "Catherine or is Catherine playing Sean?
Jean: Well, the tables turn, and she is playing him. But then, you find out that he knew that, right?
Bobby: So, they're both playing each other. You got it right. It was a trick question. They're both playing each other.
Lindsey: Because that's what—that's entrapment.
Jean: Can't fool me.
Bobby: Yes. Lindsey, last question.
Lindsey: Uh-oh.
Bobby: Do they get together at the end?
Lindsey: Yeah.
Bobby: Yeah, you got it right.
Lindsey: Okay. Good. Of course they fuck, are you kidding. Duh.
Bobby: Oh, my God. Wow. What a great heist conversation. But we don't know if they get together. I really want the professor and—I want with that reveal, that fucking Lisbon is still alive, actually—it was like a gasp moment for me.
Lindsey: It was incredible. You need to make a little play list of heist movies that go along with this episode...
Bobby: Okay. I will.
Lindsey: ...to share with the people, because I feel like this is a good...
Bobby: And a lot of them are on Netflix.
Lindsey: ...a good 101 of heisting.
Bobby: Ultimately, I think that's the number one draw, Money Heist. If you like heists, it is every single thing you love about heists, but just stretched out. And each episode is its own little mini heist.
Jean: Yes, especially Season 3, because it was made for Netflix.
Bobby: Exactly. Like, what if you broke Ocean's Eleven down into each of those individual things? Like, Don Cheadle needs to get the thing; that's an episode. Casey Affleck and what's his name—Scott Caan have to go get the thing; that's an episode.
Lindsey: It's also just, you know, it makes it so it's more realistically complicated when they get into situations you're like, "How are you going to get out of this one?" It's not just an easy fix. Usually it can be just an easy fix, but this one is more—he's got to go—there's a car with some DNA evidence on it. He's got to go, pretend to be homeless so he can get rid of the car. And there's a lot of like little pieces that this—that they can put in here because it is drawn out, you know.
Bobby: So, thank you, Sidney—and I don't remember who you are.
Lindsey: I am Fresno, bitch.
Bobby: Thank you, Sidney and Fresno, for joining me, Minneapolis, to talk about an amazing show, Money Heist, and why just three Americans trying to tell Americans to watch because it's incredible. Like, join the rest of the world. Everyone else in the world knows.
Lindsey: Especially if you speak Spanish. We didn't even say—like if you speak Spanish, this is such a delight.
Bobby: Yes.
Lindsey: Like, it's a no-brainer for you.
Bobby: Just join the Money Heist train. It's the best. Thank you for joining us, Jean.
Jean: Than you.
Bobby: I'm sorry it's so early there.
Jean: No, it's really—it's fine. I'm thrilled. I am just so excited that not only did I get to talk to you guys about this, that hopefully, you know, when Season 3 comes out, more people will watch it. And then we can talk about it with them, too.
Bobby: Believe the hype. It's great. So, thank you for listening to I'm Obsessed With This. We'll be back in two weeks with another episode. Thanks for listening. Money Heist is streaming now.
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