I'm Obsessed With This

Wine Country, The Society with Mariah Smith and Lauren Thompson

Episode Summary

This week, host Bobby Finger chats with Lauren Thompson, producer and writer whose work can be seen on Refinery29, VH1 and your Instagram explore page, and Mariah Smith, writer and Creator of Keeping Up with the Kontinuity Errors, a blog that tracks the continuity errors in Keeping Up with the Kardashians, which runs weekly on The Cut. They discuss their current obsessions, which include the soapy teen drama Elité, the wildly addictive lifestyle reality show Amazing Interiors, and the surprising procedural comforts of NCIS. (Yes, that NCIS.) Moving on, they sink their teeth into lengthy discussions of Amy Poheler's directorial debut, Wine Country (it's hilarious!!), and all the dark twists and turns of The Society (it's about politics?!). Skip segments you'd like to keep spoiler-free with these handy time codes: Wine Country: 13:27 - 23:05 The Society: 10:14 - 31:41 Call 754-CALL-BOB and share your current obsessions, and we may discuss it on a future episode! Once again, it's 754-CALL-BOB.

Episode Notes

This week, host Bobby Finger chats with Lauren Thompson, producer and writer whose work can be seen on Refinery29, VH1 and your Instagram explore page, and Mariah Smith, writer and Creator of Keeping Up with the Kontinuity Errors, a blog that tracks the continuity errors in Keeping Up with the Kardashians, which runs weekly on The Cut. They discuss their current obsessions, which include the soapy teen drama Elité, the wildly addictive lifestyle reality show Amazing Interiors, and the surprising procedural comforts of NCIS. (Yes, that NCIS.) Moving on, they sink their teeth into lengthy discussions of Amy Poheler's directorial debut, Wine Country (it's hilarious!!), and all the dark twists and turns of The Society (it's about politics?!).

Skip segments you'd like to keep spoiler-free with these handy time codes:

Wine Country: 13:27 - 23:05

The Society: 10:14 - 31:41

Call 754-CALL-BOB and share your current obsessions, and we may discuss it on a future episode!

Once again, it's 754-CALL-BOB.

Episode Transcription

[Music]


 

Bobby: Welcome to I'm Obsessed With This, the Netflix podcast about the shows and films that everyone seems to be talking about and why.  I'm your host, Bobby Finger, and today I’m joined in the studio by Lauren Thompson, a producer and writer whose work can be seen on Refinery29, VH1 and your Instagram explore page.  That’s true, she’s always online.  I’m also joined by Mariah Smith, writer and creator of Keeping Up With The Kontinuity Errors, a blog that tracks the continuity errors in Keeping Up With the Kardashians which runs weekly on The Cut.  As usual, we’ll be having spoiler filled discussions of all series and films so check the time codes on the show and that’s in case you’d like to skip those sections.  Welcome you two, thanks for being here.


 

Lauren: Hi, thanks for me.


 

Mariah: Thanks for us.


 

Bobby: Of course.


 

Mariah: So fun.


 

Bobby: This is—it’s already fun.  You’re already having fun?


 

Mariah: I’m already having a good time.


 

Bobby: Mariah’s having a good time.  Lala’s smiling.


 

Lauren: I’m ready.


 

Bobby: Lauren is smiling.  Excuse me.  I know Lauren as Lala, but I’m going to try to stop myself and be more formal.


 

Lauren: It’s okay.


 

Bobby: You’re Lauren.


 

Lauren: This can be an informal podcast moment.


 

Mariah: Yeah chit chat.


 

Bobby: But you are on my Explore feed a lot.

Lauren: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: And your hair looks great today.


 

Lauren: Thanks.


 

Bobby: When did you get it done?


 

Lauren: Last week.  This is my fresh hair color.


 

Mariah: It’s so beautiful.


 

Lauren: For the listeners it’s a neon orange.


 

Bobby: It’s neon orange.


 

Mariah: Yeah, yeah.


 

Bobby: It’s great.  Mariah’s hair is not orange.


 

Mariah: It’s just black, yeah.


 

Bobby: But it still looks great.


 

Mariah: Thanks, you know.  It’s just what I was born with.


 

Bobby: I bring the guests beverages of their choice to every recording and I must say this is the first time both guests asked for just water.  Just not sweetened.  Not seltzer.


 

Mariah: Here’s the thing—


 

Bobby. Not coffee water.


 

Mariah: …I don’t trust anyone else’s coffee really so I couldn’t say oh I’d like a coffee because I don’t know what you’d bring me, you know?


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Mariah: No offense to anyone but…


 

Bobby: I won’t name the brand but it’s the one that like is definitely a scam.

Mariah: Here’s the thing—


 

Bobby: It’s ionized.


 

Mariah: …when I was thinking—


 

Bobby: What?


 

Mariah: …I was like this is—when I ask for water this is what comes to mind.


 

Bobby: Really?


 

Lauren: Oh wow.


 

Mariah: I watch too much Kardashians.  That’s probably why.


 

Bobby: I don’t understand it but it’s definitely we’re being conned right?


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: Yeah.


 

Mariah: It took me a while to start drinking it.


 

Lauren: Bottle water full stop is a scam so.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Humans have been around for a really long time and not until maybe 18 months ago did we start caring about the PH balance of our water.  Right, right?  Am I making that up?  I’m not ignorant right?


 

Lauren: No, no.


 

Mariah: No.


 

Bobby: Okay well that’s good.  So as you know this show is called I’m Obsessed With This.  Before we get into the shows we’re going to be talking about this week which are The Society, the new 10-episode series.  Probably going to come back.  Let’s be honest.


 

Lauren: Come back.


 

Bobby: Though I don’t know anything.


 

Lauren: I need more answers.


 

Bobby: And the film directed by Amy Poehler in her directorial debut Wine Country.  We’ll get to those in a second.


 

Mariah: Awesome.


 

Bobby: Those are my homework assignments for the two of you.


 

Mariah: Okay.


 

Bobby: And for myself.


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: Before that I want to talk about your individual obsessions.  Let’s start with Mariah because you’re on my right.


 

Mariah: Okay cool.


 

Bobby: What have you watched lately on Netflix that you’ve fucking love?  Whether or not it’s original, licensed, whatever.


 

Mariah: So, I work from home.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: So, I’m watching Netflix.


 

Bobby: All the time.


 

Mariah: All the time.  Recently though my go to is NCIS which—


 

Bobby: I love that.  I love that.


 

Mariah: …I just started watching—


 

Lauren: Like early?


 

Mariah: …in December.  Yeah I’m going through but what’s—I have an issue with like getting anxiety when I—because I read spoilers about everything I watch.


 

Bobby: Before, after or during?


 

Mariah: Before and during.


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Mariah: So I am watching—I’ve only gotten up to Season 10 because I know something is going to happen in Season 11 that I’m not excited about and some changes that will happen as we move forward to Season 16 which they’re wrapping up now.  So at present, I have been struggling to re-watch the first probably Seasons 3 through 10 because those are my favorites because some stuff happens in season one that makes me sad I can’t really watch that.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: But I just love Gibbs and the gang.  I’m a fan.


 

Bobby: Gibbs and the gang.


 

Mariah: I know—yeah.


 

Lauren: Who’s the girl who’s like the goth computer whiz?


 

Bobby: Polly Perrette.


 

Mariah: Polly Perrette and I don’t like her.


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Mariah: Yeah her character is not ideal and I’m just not a fan.


 

Bobby: Who is Gibbs?


 

Mariah: He’s Mark Harmon.


 

Bobby: Oh Mark Harmon okay.

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Yeah I forgot.  I confused it with Blue Bloods.  I was like which one’s Tom Selleck.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: But that’s not—


 

Mariah: Oh no, no, no.


 

Bobby: …NCIS.


 

Mariah: Yeah I like—I know much more about the Navy than I’ve ever known in my life.  I really respect it and I really—my family makes fun of me.  We were on a vacation and I was glued to my phone watching NCIS.  Literally at Disneyland watching NCIS because I couldn’t get enough.


 

Lauren: I mean the happiest place on earth so.


 

Mariah: I mean yeah you got to bring it down a little bit with some Navy murder.


 

Bobby: What is—so every episode is like a mur—it’s a procedural obviously but like I’ve never watched it.


 

Mariah: It’s like—it’s some sort of crime that relates to the Navy.


 

Bobby: And they’re all working together—


 

Lauren: Wait what does NCIS—


 

Bobby: …to figure out…


 

Lauren: …stand for?


 

Mariah: I forget the exact acronym.


 

Bobby: You’ve watched 10—you have watched 10 seasons of this Mariah and you do not know what NCIS—


 

Mariah: No it’s Navy—


 

Bobby: …stands for?


 

Mariah: …Investigative Criminal—Navy Criminal Investigative Service.


 

Bobby: You were not confident saying that.


 

Mariah: I was not.  And also—


 

Bobby: After 10 seasons?


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: That’s 200 episodes.


 

Mariah: But this is what—


 

Bobby: That’s like 240 episodes.


 

Mariah: This is what really—how it’s impacted me.  I genuinely looked up what it takes to become an NCIS special agent.  You just really have to pass a few tests and then…


 

Lauren: You don’t have to be in the Navy?


 

Mariah: No.


 

Lauren: Oh.


 

Mariah: No.


 

Bobby: Can you start keeping up with some naval continuity errors?


 

Mariah: Oh I would love that.


 

Bobby: Would that be your—


 

Mariah: I have—I do see continuity errors.


 

Bobby: You would look for trends.


 

Mariah: And yeah.


 

Bobby: You would look for trends and patterns and you’d point out like this is—they’re the murderer.


 

Mariah: Well yeah—no well I do look for the trends and patterns in the show now.  They reuse a lot of sets.


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Mariah: So it’s—


 

Lauren: Oh.


 

Mariah: …so annoying—


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Mariah: …because you’ll be like oh this place was a house and now it’s a funeral home.  It’s very—it’s tragic.  But other than that I watched Dead to Me which I truly loved.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: I did that in one day.


 

Bobby: Loved that.  Me too.


 

Mariah: I didn’t expect to love it.  Christina Applegate is amazing.


 

Bobby: Me either.


 

Mariah: Linda Cardellini.


 

Bobby: Cardellini.


 

Mariah: Yeah I love her.


 

Bobby: I could use her.


 

Mariah: Yeah I feel like I’ve seen her in stuff but I don’t think I have except Dead To Me.  But I love her.


 

Bobby: She’s been in One Billion Things.

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: I would say she’s probably most well-known for Freaks and Geeks.


 

Lauren: Freaks and Geeks.


 

Mariah: Oh I’ve never seen it.


 

Bobby: But then also she is Chutney in Legally Blonde which I mentioned in the last episode.


 

Mariah: Oh right.


 

Bobby: She’s the murdered.


 

Lauren: Oh.


 

Mariah: Oh my god.


 

Bobby: People forget that.  She’s the murderer.


 

Lauren: Oh my god.


 

Mariah: Oh my god.  Yes I remember.


 

Lauren: She still looks so young.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: But it’s actually hard to imagine that she has been in all things.


 

Bobby: She and Christina Applegate both look much younger than are.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: And they’ve both been acting their whole lives essentially—


 

Mariah: Forever.


 

Bobby: …since they were kids.


 

Lauren: And Christina Applegate is so funny.  Like Samantha Who? was one of my favorite shows back in the day.


 

Bobby: I loved it.


 

Lauren: It was so funny.


 

Bobby: Samantha Who? fans just pop out of the woodwork all the time.


 

Lauren: I know right.  Well you never know.


 

Bobby: It’s like everywhere you go someone’s like you know what show I love? Samantha Who?  I would love that show to come back.  Bring it back.


 

Lauren: Yes.


 

Bobby: Who needs the Murphy Brown revival?


 

Mariah: Who’s that for?


 

Lauren: Everyone—


 

Mariah: Not me.


 

Lauren: …who watched that is dead so keep it.


 

Bobby: You have Schitt’s Creek on here.  Do you watch a lot of Schitt’s Creek?


 

Mariah: Oh yes.  That’s the other show I watch daily.


 

Bobby: Over and over again?


 

Mariah: Over and over again.


 

Bobby: Yeah me too, yeah.


 

Mariah: I think last week I watched seasons three and four three times.


 

Lauren: What?


 

Bobby: I love your Netflix habits.

Mariah: I’m just—I really—because I don’t—I get stressed out easily by new things.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: So if I know what’s going to happen and I know what I enjoy, stick to it.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: But Schitt’s Creek, NCIS always playing in my home.


 

Bobby: Are you going to re-do Dead to Me or is it a little too intense?


 

Mariah: It’s a little intense now.  I thought about watching it the other day but I’m going to watch it with my sister this week so—


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Mariah: …that’s my task.


 

Bobby: So great.  Lauren, what about you?  What have you been watching that you love?


 

Lauren: That I love?  Okay.


 

Bobby: Besides NCIS.


 

Lauren: I mean, I haven’t watched NCIS since I left my parents’ house but when we were home it was in huge rotation.  Right now, I’m obsessed Elite or Elite which is a Netflix original series based on a group of Spanish high schoolers.


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Lauren: And murder.


 

Bobby: Murder?


 

Lauren: Really wanted—someone—everyone said I would love that.  I got to watch that.


 

Bobby: Everyone loves Elite.  I haven’t watched it either.


 

Lauren: It’s super soapy.  I would say it’s sort of like cousins to Riverdale in the intensity.  It starts out with a murder and then you trying to figure out who did it.

Bobby: Okay.


 

Lauren: It’s one of the main characters.


 

Bobby: But is it more of like a—is it like TV-14 or is it TV-MA like The Society?


 

Lauren: I think it’s TV-MA.


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Lauren: There’s like multiple threesomes.


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Mariah: Whoa.


 

Bobby: Okay so it’s sexy?


 

Mariah: And they’re teenagers?


 

Lauren: Oh yeah.


 

Mariah: Whoa.


 

Lauren: Well they’re all super, super rich because they’re like—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: …the elite class.


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].

Lauren: So like one of the big dramas is like someone’s there on a scholarship.


 

Bobby: Oh so it’s very gossip girly too?


 

Lauren: Oh it’s super gossip—


 

Mariah: Oh I love that.


 

Lauren: …girly.


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Mariah: Okay.


 

Lauren: And there’s—


 

Bobby: It’s got the class—


 

Lauren: …you know, there’s like an—


 

Bobby: …the class system?


 

Lauren: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Like yeah.


 

Lauren: There’s like the bad boy who falls in love with like the really conservative girl and there’s like a really good, good queer couple.  Two guys that is like a great shit.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].  I am really excited to hear you talk about Amazing Interiors.  I know that you love wild home shows.


 

Lauren: Yes so I’m obsessed with Netflix home shows and another one that’s actually serious and—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: …very calming is extraordinary homes which are these like beautiful—


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: …super—


 

Mariah: I like it.


 

Lauren: …expensive homes.  But my favorite is Amazing Interiors which is a fully insane show that seems like it was scripted it’s so off the walls.  So it’s people who have regular houses and inside they’re weirdly themed on some way.


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: And this can be like…


 

Bobby: It’s like if you like the facade of a TV—like if you saw the Brady Bunch house but then you went inside and it was like Liberace lived there or something.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: So like sometimes—


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Lauren: …it’s like a girl in LA who’s the like the pink girl and it’s not Angeline.  It’s another girl—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: …who is obsessed with pink LA and it’s like everything in her house gets painted pink and it’s like okay that one’s kind of normal or a guy who collects, you know, movie horror props—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: …which is like ehhh but okay.


 

Mariah: Oh that’s weird.


 

Lauren: Sure.  But then it’s like a guy who’s obsessed with scuba diving to the point where he built the biggest fish tank in Europe in his home around—he built that and then built a home around it so he could scuba dive in it every day.


 

Bobby: And he does.

Lauren: And he does.


 

Bobby: He uses it.  It’s not like someone buys a pellet gun.


 

Lauren: And so all the chairs—


 

Mariah: Wait…


 

Lauren: …are set up just like facing the tank because it’s the whole wall.


 

Mariah: How is that like legal?


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Lauren: Well it’s like he has to take care of the tank and clean everything so someone has to dive in there anyways.


 

Mariah: Oh my god.


 

Bobby: So he—it’s like his hobby but it’s also his like—


 

Mariah: A chore.


 

Bobby: …chore.


 

Lauren: It’s also a chore.  He’s like, “Yeah when I went on vacation my son has to be here because he knows how to dive in the tank.”


 

Bobby: Oh no.


 

Mariah: And there are fish?


 

Lauren: And there’s hundreds of fish.


 

Mariah: Do they—okay so what do they eat?  Does he feed them or are they—


 

Lauren: He feeds them—


 

Mariah: …eating themselves?


 

Lauren: …everyday.

Mariah: Okay.


 

Bobby: Yeah does he—does it create—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …well does he have like an ecosystem that he creates there?  Like do things grow?


 

Mariah: Oh my god.  Oh my god.


 

Lauren: Well he takes you back in this like filtration room.


 

Bobby: Oh no.  I’m sure that’s—


 

Lauren: And it’s like he—


 

Bobby: …disgusting.


 

Lauren: …has like double sound proof doors because like the—


 

Bobby: Filters are loud.


 

Lauren: …purifying the water takes so—is so loud and takes so much energy.


 

Bobby: A friend of my mine has a turtle in her apartment and she has—


 

Mariah: What?


 

Bobby: …to clean the filter like once a month and it’s a whole to-do and it’s a tank that’s maybe five feet by two feet.  It’s big but it’s not—I couldn’t scuba dive in it.


 

Lauren: Yeah.


 

Bobby: And that’s an insane amount of work for her.


 

Lauren: Yeah.


 

Mariah: I actually—


 

Bobby: This is nuts.


 

Mariah: …had a nightmare the other day that someone gifted me a goldfish and I lost—I didn’t know how to care for it and then it died and I didn’t know how to tell them.  That’s how terrified I am of taking care of…


 

Bobby: Did you flush it?


 

Mariah: No it just—I forgot to take it out of the bag.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].  But when it died what’d you do with it in the dream?  Did anything happen?  Did you just—


 

Mariah: I put it in the tank.


 

Bobby: …let it float.


 

Lauren: Of course she didn’t clean it.


 

Bobby: Just let it float.


 

Mariah: Because I was like oh they’ll think it drowned in the tank or some—drown—the fish wouldn’t drown.  Something—


 

Bobby: Well—


 

Mariah: …I don’t know.


 

Bobby: …and it’s dream behavior.


 

Mariah: Yeah it’s wild, wild.


 

Bobby: It’s dream behavior.


 

Lauren: Wait can I mention one more insane interior?


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: You can.


 

Lauren: Okay so one of the craziest—


 

Bobby: Please.


 

Lauren: …ones is how I introduce to people to Amazing Interiors is—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: …they take to you this like London townhouse.  I guess you don’t call it a brownstone in London.  But, you know, a traditional London townhouse.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: Beautiful—


 

Bobby: Row house.


 

Lauren: …little street.


 

Bobby: Row house?


 

Lauren: Row house, beautiful street.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: And they’re like this is famous American director’s apartment and it’s Roland Emmerich’s apartment and are you ready for what the theme is inside?


 

Mariah: I don’t think I am.


 

Bobby: He’s the director of like Independence Day.


 

Lauren: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: All of the disaster movies right?


 

Lauren: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: Okay.

Lauren: Communist director themed.


 

Mariah: What?


 

Lauren: So it is the most offensive art.  Like Saddam Hussein on a shower curtain.


 

Mariah: What?


 

Lauren: All these like Stalin photos.  It’s truly insane.  There’s photos of it online.

Mariah : What’s his explanation for that?


 

Lauren: It’s like provocative.


 

Mariah: What a jerk.


 

Bobby: Stal—there’s a pope under the stairs?


 

Lauren: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: There’s a pope—


 

Lauren: It’s like a freaky—


 

Bobby: …under the stairs.


 

Lauren: …figurine of like a wax figure of the pope.


 

Mariah: Oh god no.  Never, never.


 

Bobby: I hate this.


 

Lauren: Anyways that’s the kind of stuff you can run into.  But then also people who are live somewhere cold so we made our whole house into a greenhouse and it’s just like there’s like waterfalls and like…


 

Mariah: Wow.


 

Bobby: And Roland Emmerich’s—the layout of this house is like stunning.


 

Lauren: It’s huge.

Bobby: You could do so—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: …many cool things—


 

Lauren: This is a million—


 

Bobby: …with this house.


 

Lauren: …dollar house.


 

Bobby: And this what he did?


 

Mariah: I know that’s so sad.  It’s like this what you wanted to do.


 

Bobby: This is how you spent—


 

Lauren: This is not an accidental collection either.


 

Mariah: Oh my god.


 

Lauren: He went to an interior designer—


 

Mariah: Thought out.


 

Lauren: …and said—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: …let’s make it as offensive as possible.


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: And I hate this.  I hate this but I do love Independence Day.


 

Mariah: But I also wonder who would want to Airbnb that.  Like what type of person are you?

 

Lauren: I bet it’s also sold out.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: My bet so too.  It’s like that like Instant Hotel which is also on Netflix.  Like—


 

Mariah: Oh right, right, right.


 

Lauren: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: …wild homes.  That—did you—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: People want to live in wild homes.


 

Bobby: …when people want to—and people want to rent it out because it’s like let’s—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …spend in this like—


 

Lauren: Crazy place.


 

Bobby: …nightmare.


 

Mariah: Wow.  Never.


 

Bobby: I would do—that actually makes more sense than living in it.


 

Lauren: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Because you want to stay in there because if you lived in a house with Lennon the walls you’d go crazy.


 

Mariah: Yeah, yeah, yeah.


 

Bobby: Think you would fully go crazy.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: But a weekend?  You could get over it.


 

[Music]


 

Bobby: Lauren, Mariah, can I just say something?


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: It’s time to talk about Wine Country.


 

Lauren: Now this water seems silly.


 

Bobby: Can I just—


 

Mariah: I know right?


 

Bobby: …saying something?


 

Mariah: I should have asked for some wine.


 

Bobby: Did we notice how many times they say can I just saying something?  Because I have now watched—


 

Mariah: Yes.


 

Bobby: …Wine Country twice.


 

Mariah: Yes.


 

Bobby: And it wasn’t until the second time that I realized how often they actually say it.


 

Mariah: I thought that when they were like in the—I was going to say the winery—a lot of it’s a winery—but when they were all like walking in the vineyard that they shouldn’t be walking in—


 

Bobby: All of them do it.


 

Mariah: …that’s like the—I was like oh this is a game of this set.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: They’re all just can I just say something about the other person.  It’s like, you know, everyone—


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: …has some little gripe with another person.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: I loved that.


 

Bobby: I love any movie or TV show that does that.

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: Because I think that’s one of the realest representations of friendship.


 

Mariah: Yup.


 

Bobby: Because like—


 

Mariah: Yup.


 

Bobby: …you can’t be good friends with someone unless you complain about them.


 

Mariah: Yup.


 

Bobby: Like if you’re not complaining about someone you don’t know them well enough.


 

Mariah: Especially with—


 

Bobby: I know right?


 

Mariah: …that many people yeah, uh-huh [negative].


 

Lauren: And for as long as they’ve known each other.


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: And you know to do it—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …like briefly like I’m just going to get this out of my system but like come on and the other person’s like—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: …I know and then you move on.


 

Lauren: Yeah and then it’s done.


 

Bobby: And then you move on.


 

Mariah: And I did—


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Mariah: …love how like every time they complained the next time they interacted with that person it wasn’t like a—it was just so real it wasn’t like that complaint was still lingering.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: They were—


 

Bobby: You get it out of your system.


 

Mariah: …still just—yeah.


 

Lauren: Felt like human—


 

Mariah: I don’t it’s weird—


 

Lauren: …people with---


 

Mariah: …yeah.


 

Lauren: …multifaceted…


 

Mariah: And I’m like oh I love it.


 

Bobby: So Wine Country is a new movie directed by Amy Poehler, her directorial debut, written by Emily Spivey—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: …who is also in it as Jenny, very, very funny and Liz Cackowski who was the organic wine lady in that scene.  She was the co-writer.


 

Mariah: Oh.


 

Lauren: Oh.

Bobby: Both of…


 

Mariah: She was funny.


 

Bobby: Right.  She’s funny, she’s funny.  So—and her brother was actually the other sommelier who was like there—it doesn’t taste like canned peaches.


 

Mariah: Oh my god.


 

Bobby: That guy.  They are brother and sister.  He didn’t write it though.


 

Lauren: That’s one of my favorite bits.


 

Bobby: I love—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: They hate—they care about wine.


 

Bobby: They don’t care about wine.


 

Mariah: Yeah that’s one of the best parts.


 

Bobby: And it stats Amy Poehler, Maya Rudolph, Emily Spivey, Paula Pell, Cherry Jones, Rachel Dratch, Jason Schwartzman.  Who am I missing?


 

Lauren: Tina Fey.


 

Mariah: Tina Fey.


 

Bobby: Tina Fey, Ana Gasteyer.


 

Mariah: Yeah, yeah.


 

Bobby: Those are the big ones.  And it’s about these women who go to Napa Valley for Rachel Dratch’s, their—one of their best friends 50th birthday and of course everything goes wrong, long-held resentments are revealed and—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …and like finally exposed.  People fall down hills, people throw out theirs backs, people have like weird existential crises involving raccoons.


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: Did we like Wine Country?


 

Mariah: I really did.


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Lauren: I liked it as well.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: I’m not crazy, crazy about it but it was one of the first times in a while that I’ve seen a lot of those women be in something—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: …I really liked.


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].  Right yeah.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: Because I feel like for a while—I mean Amy Poehler I loved in Parks and Rec, of course.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: But I feel like I’ve been waiting for her to sort of do another big role where she was like—


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: …actually funny and I actually wanted to see it and I feel like this fulfilled that promise—

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: …for me.


 

Mariah: I think—yeah.  I—because I’m thinking back, I want to say aside from Tina Fey’s character a lot of them were very like real representations of how women that age would sort of act in the normal world—


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: …and then just put in this movie.  Because like when I remember watching like Baby Mama with Tina Fey and Amy Poehler which is funny but I’m like it’s too—


 

Bobby: It’s weird.


 

Mariah: …over the top.


 

Lauren: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: It’s a weird—


 

Mariah: And so was their—


 

Bobby: …movie.


 

Mariah: …Sisters movie.  I didn’t even finish that because I was like these—they’re—


 

Bobby: Oh I hate that.


 

Mariah: …the characters were too heavy I think.

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: So this seemed a lot more settled and realistic.


 

Bobby: And I think those are good comparisons because both of those movies I think stand out not—I said I hate Sisters.  I don’t hate Sisters.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: But it’s like—they’re so inauthentic.


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: But their characters who like don’t make any sense.


 

Mariah: At all yeah.


 

Bobby: And especially Tina Fey in Sisters makes less sense than anything I’ve seen Tina Fey do.


 

Mariah: Honestly, honestly.


 

Bobby: She’s like play—I don’t know—it—make—it’s like have you ever met anyone?


 

Mariah: Right.


 

Bobby: Because you’re acting like no one I’ve ever seen—


 

Mariah: Right.


 

Bobby: …in my whole life.  And then I—but in this even though Tina Fey is again sort of cast as like the weirdest character—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: …everyone in the movie feels like an authentic—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …not only like woman but like an authentic part of a friend group.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: You know, they all seem like—they’re friendship makes sense.


 

Mariah: One of my favorite parts of the movie was when they wake up after their first night and they’re—


 

Bobby: Oh.


 

Mariah: …in the kitchen—


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: …and Maya Rudolph was wearing a bonnet and Rachel Dratch asked her—she’s asking her, “Are you—did you take a shower or are you going to take a shower?”  And I’m like this is so funny because Maya was using that bonnet to sleep in because—


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: …black women do that.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: But, of course, like her white friend wouldn’t necessarily know that specific thing about her, and Maya’s not even like…


 

Bobby: It’s like whatever.


 

Mariah: Yeah it’s like I don’t have the time—


 

Bobby: Like—


 

Mariah: …to break this down—


 

Bobby: …I can’t get into this.


 

Mariah: …for you.  I thought—I was like okay I loved that.  That to me was truly the stand out.


 

Bobby: I love that scene because there’s this authenticity to the—

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: …like the morning after you’re first night with your friends—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: …for—when you go away for a weekend where you’re just sort of dazed but you’re also deeply comfortable.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Even though it’s not the funniest movie of all time—


 

Mariah: Right.


 

Bobby: …it’s not really the cleverest movie of all time because not much happens.


 

Lauren: Yeah nothing happens.


 

Mariah: Uh-huh [negative].


 

Bobby: The stakes are pretty low but every scene like that one included—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: …felt like a scene between people who have known each other forever.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Like you can—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …tell that these women have known each other forever and I—and that’s something about Wine Country—Paula Pell and Emily Spivey are probably the two least recognizable people in the friend group.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: But they’ve known those women for as long as everyone else.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Because they were writers on SNL forever.  They were writers on SNL when Tina Fey and Amy Poehler were at SNL but they weren’t on camera often.


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: Every once in a while Paula Pell would pop up.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Emily Spivey less so.  What else did we love about this movie?


 

Lauren: Bobby, can I give you a little feedback?


 

Bobby: Please.  Can I give you…


 

Mariah: Okay.  Okay, I like it.


 

Lauren: So Jason Schwartzman to me as soon as he came on screen I was like, okay who is he having sex with?


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: So like the whole time—


 

Bobby: Oh I see.


 

Lauren: …I was trying to figure out who it was going be.


 

Mariah: Is he like the—


 

Bobby: I didn’t.


 

Mariah: …yeah is he supposed to be like hot?


 

Bobby: I think he’s supposed to be—


 

Lauren: I think—


 

Bobby: …like—


 

Lauren: …Jason Schwartzman’s hot.  Theory, was he like a fairy?


 

Bobby: A hallucination?


 

Lauren: Like a spiritual creature brought into bring in them together because like no one else references except—


 

Bobby: Why not?


 

Lauren: …for them?

Bobby: Why not?


 

Mariah: Wow.


 

Bobby: Why not?


 

Lauren: Here just thinking outside of the box.


 

Bobby: What do we think of Tina Fey’s Character who owns the house?


 

Lauren: I couldn’t…


 

Bobby: Weird.


 

Mariah: Yeah it was weird.  I liked her as the movie went on when she became a little bit more grounded and realistic—


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: …a little bit.  It was just such a stark contrast between all of the women it was so over the top.


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Mariah: And such a heavy character.  She did it—played it well and like I think she does that a little bit better than other roles she’s played.


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Mariah: I watched her in Date Night recently again with Steve Carell and like that was fine.  It’s just—


 

Bobby: That movie’s weird.


 

Mariah: It’s weird.


 

Bobby: That movie’s weird.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Because you want more from them.

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: And that’s why I went into this and I was like I’m going to be disappointed by this.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: But I—because I’m so used to being disappointed by these women who are hilarious.


 

Mariah: Right.


 

Lauren: Who I love on TV.


 

Bobby: Who keep—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …who I love on TV and who keep getting kind of shit movie roles.


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: And this is like finally a movie role worth their time because they’re friends wrote it.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: You know, like—


 

Lauren: And directed it.


 

Bobby: …there was so much—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …of a personal connection to like the creative process of this movie that like it makes sense that it’s a little more authentic and enjoyable than their other stuff.


 

Mariah: Right.


 

Lauren: What’d you guys think about the art show?


 

Bobby: Stupid.


 

Mariah: That was insane.


 

Bobby: But it’s funny.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Like fully stupid.  Doesn’t make any sense.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Fully in the middle of the day and it’s all young people in—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …Napa Valley?


 

Lauren: Wait, can I say—


 

Bobby: Come on.


 

Lauren: …something I was nervous about?


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: What?


 

Lauren: So like before they panned out to show the art I was so afraid that the picture that she had taken of Paula Pell was going to be like the art and it was going to be—


 

Mariah: Me too.


 

Lauren: …like a joke.


 

Mariah: Me too.  That’s what I was thinking.


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Lauren: Like—


 

Bobby: I didn’t even—


 

Lauren: …I was like it’s going to be a—


 

Bobby: …think of that.


 

Lauren: …blown up photo—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: …of her and it’s like—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: …sadness or something, you know, like—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Oh yeah.


 

Lauren: …really offensive.  So when it panned out to the reveal—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: …of Fran Drescher I was like wait what?


 

Mariah: That was like just so bizarre but then again it seemed like that character was completely different than you’d expect her to be—

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: …at the restaurant.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: It was too different people.  So that wasn’t realistic—


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: …for me.  That was a little bit tough to swallow but I still enjoyed the scene.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].  Once of the biggest laughs of the movie came during that scene for me when what’s her name, Emily Spivey was looking at the art and it’s like, “Am I art?  I am art?”


 

Mariah: Oh yeah.


 

Bobby: And she goes, “Here’s my answer.  No and no you’re not.”


 

Mariah: Yes I liked that.


 

Bobby: Something like that.  And I was like this great.


 

Lauren: That was great.


 

Bobby: And it’s also like—but it’s also like an old joke.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: The—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …am I art joke.  Like making fun of art in a broad comedy is so over played at this point but I still thought it was funny.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: And I think that is something that can be said about a lot of the movie where it’s like none of it really should have been as funny as it was but because of who they are—


 

Mariah: Right.


 

Bobby: …it ended up—


 

Mariah: Right.


 

Bobby: …being funny.  Like Maya Rudolph picking up the mic and drunkenly singing.


 

Lauren: I got anxiety as soon as she picked it up.


 

Bobby: Was like—

Mariah: When she—


 

Bobby: …oh god I hate…


 

Mariah: …fell, oh my god.


 

Bobby: Yeah it’s like—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …I hate when this happens in a movie but when she fell I laughed so hard and when she like—she’s just so good at like—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …pausing and like—she delivers lines I think with a little more nuance than a lot of the people in the—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: …movie.  But like she’s just hysterical and perfect.  Like she could do the oldest joke in the world and I would laugh it.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: Agreed.


 

Bobby: There’s something about wine that brings out the messiness in otherwise not messy people because they think wine is classier.


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: But it’s still—


 

Lauren: Uh-huh [negative].


 

Bobby: …liquor.  I mean, it’s alcohol.


 

Mariah: Yeah, yeah.


 

Lauren: It’s alcohol.

Bobby: It’s alcohol.  It’s going to do the same thing as your well vodka soda, you know?


 

Lauren: Yeah.


 

Mariah: Yup.


 

Bobby: As your Miller High Life.


 

Lauren : Exactly.


 

Bobby: You’re just going to be—


 

Lauren: Well it has more alcohol content.


 


 

Bobby: It has more alcohol.


 

Mariah: You get drunk more—I get—after a glass of wine, you know.


 

Bobby: I’m like hello.


 

Mariah: Yeah.  A tequila shot could not do that to me.


 

Lauren: Wait, did they ever do the Molly?


 

Mariah: No.

Bobby: And I loved…


 

Mariah: I wish they would—


 

Bobby: That was a great…


 

Mariah: …have, yeah.  That was funny.


 

Bobby: That was a funny little red herring where they were like you’re—they’re going to do this.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: There’s going to be a scene like there is in every movie now where they do the drug and they—

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …have like an experience and no one does the Molly?


 

Lauren: Well, I thought they did do it at first.  I must have like looked away—


 

Bobby: Oh no.


 

Lauren: …for the 10 seconds—


 

Bobby: They never did the Molly.


 

Mariah: Yeah no.


 

Lauren: …because when they’re like partying in the first night—


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm.


 

Mariah: Oh yeah.


 

Lauren: …I was like oh they did the Molly.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: And it’s like oh no they didn’t.


 

Mariah: That’s just middle-aged women on wine.


 

Bobby: Now let’s shift gears from sunny Napa Valley to what?


 

Lauren: New Ham.


 

Bobby: The woods of New Ham, Connecticut?


 

Lauren: New Ham, Connecticut.


 

Bobby: Right.  It’s called—


 

Lauren: That’s what it’s called.


 

Bobby: …New Ham.

Mariah: New Ham?


 

Lauren: So it used to be old.


 

Mariah: Not Newam?


 

Bobby: Not Old Ham.


 

Mariah: New Ham.


 

Bobby: New, New space—


 

Mariah: Oh.


 

Bobby: …Ham as in the meat.


 

Mariah: That’s not a real town?


 

Bobby: No.


 

Mariah: Good.


 

Bobby: But in the show it’s a real town and it’s a very spooky town.


 

Mariah: Of course.


 

Bobby: It’s a town filled with secrets and it’s a town filled with—


 

Lauren: Filled with teens.


 

Bobby: …and it’s—most importantly a town filled with dangerous odors.


 

Mariah: Wait.


 

Lauren: That is like literally the first part—


 

Mariah: How did you—


 

Lauren: …of The Society.


 

Mariah: …describe it when you first saying it?  It was like—

Bobby: I was like Lord of the Flies meets Lost meets Riverdale meets what?  What else am I—


 

Lauren: I think that’s a pretty—


 

Bobby: …missing?  That’s probably—


 

Lauren: …good description.


 

Bobby: …that’s probably…


 

Mariah: The only one of those things I like and/or have seen is Riverdale and I was like I can’t.


 

Bobby: Okay.  And it’s more—it’s way more Lost—it’s way more Riverdale that it is Lost but it’s—


 

Mariah: Okay.


 

Bobby: …also weirdly political which I wasn’t expecting because—


 

Lauren: It’s very political.


 

Bobby: …in the second half of the show it veers into political territory.  Like it’s fully about like elections and like setting up a democracy in what is essentially like an anarchist environment—


 

Mariah: Oh god.


 

Bobby: …of exclusively horny teens.  But The Society is a new show, 10-episode season.  You can watch it in a day like I did.  Lauren did too.


 

Lauren: I literally watched—


 

Bobby: Watched it all—


 

Lauren: …in one night.


 

Bobby: …last night.


 

Lauren: Straight through.

Bobby: It is about—the first—literally the first scene has like two teens making out behind their school theater because in some shake—what is it 12th Knight?  No it was Hamlin.


 

Mariah: Oh god.


 

Lauren: Hamlin.


 

Bobby: Yeah because was Rosencrantz and Guildenstern in that scene.  They are making out and then this girl is like, “This smells back—it smells so gross.”  And the town is all in chaos because there is this smell and then they send the kids off.  They truck all the teens away to this field trip.  Small town so you can truck off away all the kids in like three buses max.  The teens suddenly return in the town, they don’t get to go on their field trip.  The buses do a little loop.


 

Lauren: Everybody’s like there’s a mudslide we couldn’t like go up the mountain road.


 

Bobby: So…


 

Lauren: They were going on like a, you know, like an outdoor—


 

Bobby: An outdoor experience.


 

Lauren: …I don’t know like…

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: While the adults cleaned up the smell.  They get back…


 

Lauren: They don’t describe the smell.


 

Bobby: No.  They get back, all the adults are gone.


 

Mariah: What?


 

Bobby: And it’s just teens.  And they can’t leave because all the roads are blocked off by like giant like—


 

Lauren: So like where—


 

Bobby: …vine growth.


 

Lauren: …the roads would have like—the bridge to like the leave the river to the next town—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: …like trees have grown out of the road like there was never a road there.  The road just ends.


 

Bobby: You can’t leave this town.


 

Lauren: There’s no internet.  There’s no—


 

Bobby: They can text.  They can…


 

Lauren: The only thing—


 

Bobby: …text.


 

Lauren: …they can do is text each other.


 

Bobby: Each other but—


 

Lauren: But they have no—


 

Bobby: …they can’t text—


 

Lauren: …connection to the outside world.


 

Bobby: …outside, other people.


 

Mariah: Do they ever explain why all of this—


 

Bobby: No not even…


 

Mariah: …happens?


 

Bobby: …in the—


 

Lauren: Oh no, no, no.


 

Bobby: No.  And we’re—we can talk spoilers on this.  You’re not going to watch it are you?


 

Mariah: I—even if I do I don’t care about spoiler.


 

Lauren: It doesn’t—well it doesn’t matter—


 

Bobby: Oh right—


 

Lauren: …because they—


 

Bobby: …you like looking things up.


 

Lauren: …don’t explain it.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: They don’t explain anything.


 

Lauren: They don’t explain any of it.


 

Mariah: Oh my god.


 

Lauren: And it’s really not about—like when you said Lost, I said it’s almost less like Lost because Lost is a lot about like what’s happening.


 

Bobby: What is the central—


 

Mariah: Right.


 

Bobby: …mystery?


 

Mariah: Right.


 

Lauren: Where like people—


 

Bobby: This is not…


 

Lauren: …are talking about it but it’s way more like so how we going to survive.  We have to create rules in a society.  And it’s like a lot like about socialism and like—


 

Bobby: Socialism versus—

Lauren: …and class—


 

Bobby: …a democracy.


 

Lauren: …stuff.  There’s a lot of class stuff.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: Because the rich people are like, “Why are people staying in my nice house?”  And it’s like—


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Lauren: …who cares?


 

Bobby: And they get really resentful.


 

Lauren: Or like—it’s like six months—


 

Mariah: What?


 

Lauren: …where like we don’t have anymore like—


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: It’s almost like—


 

Bobby: The more—


 

Lauren: …Bird Box then.


 

Bobby: Kind of.


 

Mariah: Okay sorry.  Go on.


 

Bobby: Except with a lot more teen sex and teen drinking.


 

Mariah: Oh.


 

Bobby: There’s something about the show that was really wild to me and how graphic things were because I’m so used to like when I watch a teen show which is not often.


 

Mariah: Right.


 

Bobby: I’m used to CW level—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …material and this is fully—


 

Mariah: You get the first kiss and then a little something yeah.


 

Bobby: …TV-MA over and over again intense, really surprising and graphic deaths and dark sort of existential crises.


 

Mariah: Are they killing each other?


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Lauren: Yes.


 

Bobby: Yes.


 

Mariah: Oh.


 

Bobby: And one thing I really respected about the show, among a lot of things, in retrospect, I like it more than I did while I watching it, I think now that we’ve talked about it a little but, is that they don’t really let things linger too long.  When someone dies or murdered the killer is found out pretty quickly.


 

Mariah: Okay.


 

Bobby: And like when Gideon Adlon gets pregnant like she gives birth after a few season—


 

Lauren: In the season.


 

Bobby: …in the season.  That wasn’t some long thing.  Like they don’t really drag things out which I appreciated and I think a lot of shows so that.


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: There’s a lot of—there’s some subtle time jumps.  It’s like—and there’s a girl narrating it steadily.  I don’t know she’s taking a diary like—


 

Bobby: Yeah she was taking—


 

Lauren: …a history.


 

Bobby: …a diary.


 

Lauren: Someone is like—


 

Bobby: She’s being—


 

Lauren: …we have to write history—


 

Bobby: …the historian.


 

Lauren: …of what happens here—


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Lauren: …in case we all just die.


 

Bobby: The main character who you think is going to be the protagonist through the show because she’s the only like—she’s the smartest one.


 

Lauren: Only smart person there.


 

Bobby: She’s like the—she’s going to Yale.  She’s like the men are going ruin this.  Like the horny men are going to ruin this.


 

Lauren: Oh it’s very—


 

Bobby: There has to be…


 

Lauren: …about men versus women.


 

Bobby: It’s about men versus women.  It’s about—it’s class.  It’s men versus women.  It’s about democracy versus—


 

Lauren: Domestic abuse.


 

Bobby: …socialism.  It’s about domestic abuse.


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: Sex.


 

Bobby: It’s about—


 

Lauren: Addiction.


 

Bobby: …capital punishment.  It’s about ethics amidst chaos.


 

Lauren: And morality.


 

Bobby: It’s like—yeah like does the moral line shift whenever you’re experiences shift?


 

Lauren: Apparently, the creators have said the second season will go into race more.


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Lauren: Because class is already starting to like—


 

Bobby: Well that make sense.


 

Lauren: …cause problems.


 

Bobby: That makes sense.  If they’re trying to deal with these sorts of relationships honestly they’re going—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …to have to bring up all these things.  They already did like the sexism stuff which is going to be ongoing absolutely.


 

Lauren: There’s like a little religion stuff because like they’re all like freaks do like one—the most religious girl suddenly like I’m going to like do service now because—


 

Mariah: Oh.


 

Lauren: …what else are we going to do?


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: People are going through like existential crises.


 

Mariah: Are they making any moves to try to get out?


 

Lauren: Yes.


 

Mariah: Or is it—okay.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: And have they like…


 

Lauren: They form like a committee to get out and then they realize—there’s like a solar eclipse and everyone’s like oh duh that’s just supposed to happen and then look up—they find almanacs—


 

Bobby: Oh yeah.


 

Lauren: …in the library.  They’re like—


 

Bobby: This shouldn’t be happening.


 

Lauren: …this shouldn’t be happening right now.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: Like for 10 years there won’t be another one.  So they start looking at the stars and figure out the stars aren’t quite in the right places.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: And there’s no satellites.  So they—


 

Bobby: No satellites are working.


 

Lauren: …are like not on earth.


 

Mariah: Oh.


 

Bobby: And so it’s like are we on—are we in a different dimension?


 

Lauren: Parallel dimension?


 

Bobby: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.


 

Lauren: They fly a drone up and look around to see what’s around the forest and there’s nothing.


 

Bobby: It’s nothing.


 

Lauren: It’s all forest.  Like the ocean isn’t where it should be.


 

Bobby: Uh-huh [negative].


 

Mariah: That is freaky.


 

Bobby: It’s freaky but again the thing about the show is that the mystery doesn’t really matter yet.


 

Mariah: Okay.  The—


 

Lauren: So there’s only one little scene that reveals like what?


 

Bobby: Only one.


 

Lauren: At the very end like the Lost…


 

Bobby: And so—


 

Lauren: …like boom.


 

Bobby: …there’s all this election drama near the end and we’re still trying to pick up—pick a new leader and then there’s this dog which I can’t get into but this dog that has gone missing whatever.  Suddenly you see this dog again and it’s walking around.


 

Lauren: And you think you’re still in the town.

Bobby: And you’re like oh the dog’s back and it’s like walking around and then you see this woman—


 

Lauren: And older woman.


 

Bobby: that’s like, “Oh there you are like boy, hello.”  And old—like a woman.


 

Lauren: An adult.


 

Bobby: An adult.  And then you’re like what’s happening and she goes under one of the buildings in the town—


 

Mariah: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Bobby: …and she starts reading to children.


 

Lauren: She’s reading—


 

Bobby: Like—


 

Lauren: …Peter Pan.


 

Bobby: …reading Peter Pan.  Yeah now very—


 

Lauren: A very specific—


 

Bobby: …very neverlandy.


 

Lauren: …passage about how the mother looked back in and she wasn’t sure of those were kids in the bed.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative] and then the camera pans up and you see a plaque behind her that’s like in memory of all those we lost and it’s all of—


 

Lauren: The kids.


 

Bobby: …kids names on the plaque.  So there’s—


 

Lauren: So—


 

Bobby: …alternate reality where the parents are alone.

Lauren: And there’s alternate reality—


 

Bobby: There’s no children.


 

Lauren: …where there’s only kids.


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Lauren: So they think they’re all dead.


 

Bobby: But again that—what does that mean?


 

Lauren: Or what…


 

Bobby: It doesn’t mean anything.


 

Lauren: But what does that mean?  We don’t know.


 

Bobby: It’s not—it’s a cliffhanger but it’s also like—it offers like a little bit of closure.


 

Lauren: They slightly—


 

Bobby: Like…


 

Lauren: …set up like who could be a villain.


 

Bobby: Oh yeah sort of.


 

Mariah: But a villain who created an alternate—


 

Lauren: Yes.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: Like some—like…


 

Mariah: So it’s like sci-fi?


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Lauren: Well yeah.  It has to—

Bobby: Kind of.


 

Lauren: …be sci-fi.


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Lauren: Wait, can I mention one more thing.  I thought—


 

Bobby: One more thing?  Yeah.


 

Lauren: …an interesting thing and a cool thing about this was sign language, American sign language—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: …is multiple characters speak it or sign it so they can communicate with this pretty major character.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm.


 

Lauren: And I thought it was so nicely subtly—


 

Bobby: It was good.


 

Lauren: …integrated into the show.


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Lauren: Multiple characters either knew some or a lot of sign language.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: Just for their friend.


 

Bobby: It’s—it has a lot going for it.  It’s good.


 

Mariah: I’m very excited about it.


 

Bobby: I’m sold on it.

Lauren: Kids literally find library books and they deliver a baby and they figure out how to do it because someone had—who’s going to do it?


 

Bobby: Yeah and you think the baby’s dead but then the baby lives.  It’s good.


 

Mariah: So now they have to raise the baby?


 

Bobby: Now they have to raise a—


 

Lauren: Yeah.


 

Bobby: …a baby.  I like Lauren’s assumption that next season they will break off into like people want to live off the land and like be farmers and people want to live in the thing.


 

Lauren: Yeah for some reason I thought maybe it was like a quote, unquote limited series, you know, like—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: …where’s it’s—


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Lauren: …10 episodes and—


 

Mariah: Yeah.


 

Lauren: …it’s like done.


 

Mariah: One and done.


 

Lauren: So I was sort of like waiting for like the shoe to hit in the last episode like here we go and then it was like oh no, no this is like a set up for a lot of seasons.


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Lauren: Like—


 

Bobby: It’s going to be good.


 

Lauren: …it was like in Lost when you think well they can’t ever get off the island and then it’s most seasons of Lost are like not on the island.


 

Bobby: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: Oh I didn’t know that.


 

Bobby: Yeah.


 

Lauren: Yeah.


 

Bobby: They’re off it for a while.


 

Lauren: Yeah they’re off it for a long…


 

Bobby: And you see what’s happening in the alternate reality.  It’s good.  They’re going to do a lot of stuff with it.

Lauren: Yeah I think it’ll be fun.


 

Bobby: But I think we’re done here.  Thank you Lauren.  Thank you Mariah for coming to—

Mariah: Thank you.


 

Bobby: …talk about Wine Country and—


 

Lauren: Thanks Bob.


 

Bobby: …The Society and Elite and—


 

Mariah: Yeah thank you.


 

Bobby: …NCIS.


 

Mariah: Thank you.


 

Bobby: I might watch—


 

Mariah: Thank you.


 

Bobby: …NCIS.


 

Mariah: You have to.


 

Lauren: NCIS is something you could also put on—


 

Mariah: Hey you should—


 

Lauren: …and just like…


 

Mariah: …start from Season One and—


 

Bobby: You said it gets dark—


 

Mariah: …pay attention.


 

Bobby: …and sad?


 

Mariah: Not dark and sad.  I just have—I get—I grow attached to characters.


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Lauren: Hm-hmm [affirmative].


 

Mariah: And—


 

Bobby: Oh.


 

Mariah: …if someone like leaves it just—it’s—


 

Bobby: It’s a lot.


 

Mariah: …a lot but it has a lot of levity.


 

Bobby: Okay.


 

Lauren: Okay wait, what’s the hottest season of NCIS though?


 

Mariah: Oh god.


 

Lauren: Does it peak in like four and then like come back?  See like Greys Anatomy is so long it’s had multiple peaks and valleys


 

Mariah: I think—yeah.  I think that the best season so far is, I want to say Seasons Eight and Three.


 

Bobby: Seasons Eight and Three.


 

Lauren: Okay.


 

Mariah: Really hit home for me.


 

Bobby: Thanks again for coming by.  Also call 754-CALL-BOB and leave your thoughts about your own obsessions.  Maybe they’re NCIS, maybe not, who knows?  We will see you next time for another episode of I’m Obsessed With This.


 

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